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ScionShade

Location: VeniceFlaUS

Post Fri May 20, 2005 9:38 pm   Reply with quote         


1. i am putting this in the "ask the Experts"
section of forums because (HAHA!) we STILL don't have
a forum dedicated to discussing just photoshop. Laughing
2. ok here we go...........................
This is my second entry ever at PSC.
At the time I was a serious gumby--i wasn't even using photoshop--
I HAD NEVER CHOPPED BEFORE--
i was using an archaic Adobe product called "photodeluxe".
(which actually was a decent program)
Ok- my second entry ever--
here's the starting source--

and here is my entry...................................

I am making this thread because of "integration".
Integrating one image into another and making
it look like it belongs there is maybe the most basic and important skill
when it comes to PSC chops.
When someone new comes to PSC and enters several images where they
have inserted the source image into another image and does a decent job
of it- they get my vote--
what I wanted to show here was that I did not just integrate
the source into another image-- i went to the next level here==
the penguins are from 5 different sources--
the ice burg on the right is another source--
under water - made in photoshop--
the man was removed and then replaced back into the image
and the camera stand was made in photoshop-
the original sky and scene were color corrected--
they are brighter and have more color--
the snow field and edge of glacier are separate images.
My point is-- it is not JUST an integration but the creation
of a whole new scene with a small story to tell
that was NOT the original source or a Google find.
Some folks have been getting extremely good at integration (cut and paste)
I just want to share my opinion that this particular skill
is just a first step to master--once done it is time
for a person to move past it - not make a career of it--
and show us what you can REALLY create. Smile
Thanks for you time,
Scion Cool




fempie

Location: dutchy in germany > in Slovenia

Post Fri May 20, 2005 10:14 pm   Reply with quote         


Shocked i am really impressed! Now THATS choppin'!




aw8pj

Location: Claremont

Post Fri May 20, 2005 10:46 pm   Reply with quote         


Very well said , and also very nice work. It really is a shame you don't have the time to post more often. From what I have seen in your portfolio you have a gift my friend. But back to the issue at hand. You bring up a good point, this site is about developing your skills and progressing as artists. A well done cut and past is fine but should ideally just be a step in a choppers further development.




velocity

Location: North Carolina

Post Fri May 20, 2005 10:47 pm   Reply with quote         


Great explanation. Valuable points to pay attention to for accomplishing an idea for a great pic




MojoJuice

Location: Eagan, MN

Post Fri May 20, 2005 11:31 pm   Reply with quote         


That is great info for anyone learning PS and learning their way around PSC. Maybe it should be posted in the New Users area as well since it touches on a great point. Being new here myself it really isn't known what is expected to get the votes and comments from experienced people.

I for one would like to see an area just for photoshop discussions. Ask the Experts is nice but I would like to hear some people give a description about what they thought about doing their work and talk a little about the troubles they had with it. I think that would be great benefit for those like me trying to learn the software and expand creativity.




screwloose

Location: FL

Post Sat May 21, 2005 12:07 am   Reply with quote         


Ya know, WTF!

That is EACTELLY what us newbies need to see for us to get better.

You MASTERS need to post more often!

Dam It!

Very Happy




anfa

Location: Geordieland, UK

Post Sat May 21, 2005 12:14 am   Reply with quote         


YAY, PENGUMS!




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deshone

Location: .NL

Post Sat May 21, 2005 5:26 am   Reply with quote         


Scion 'the master' BHHAHAHAHHAHHA Smile

Sorry Scion .. had to do it ..




ScionShade

Location: VeniceFlaUS

Post Sat May 21, 2005 6:54 am   Reply with quote         


Laughing
HA! the funny part is ..
Screwloose is a better chopper than I, hehehehe
I dunno Desh, I think maybe SL was jibing me, but that's cool Smile




screwloose

Location: FL

Post Sat May 21, 2005 10:44 am   Reply with quote         


ha! No, I wasn't jibing you ( whateva that means ).

I did have a few beers in me when I wrote that though, ha!

But I still think it's an awesome chop!

And still think the o'l masters need to post more often!

damn it! ( spelled it right this time )

Razz




gravyboat

Location: Northern NY

Post Sat May 21, 2005 1:47 pm   Reply with quote         


Don't worry 'Shade, your win ain't too far away. Smile




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Not All Who Sing "The Wanderer" Are Dion

The Closer you get to Canada the more things there are that wanna eat your horse.

Post Sat May 21, 2005 7:36 pm   Reply with quote         


That's a fantastic post. (And anything with penguins gets an A+ in my book.) Perhaps you could explain some of the integration techniques you use, so inexperienced choppers will know in more detail what you mean.




ScionShade

Location: VeniceFlaUS

Post Sat May 21, 2005 8:59 pm   Reply with quote         


Smile
I have only 55 post to my record and honestly have not
improved at all --
There are many,many techniques for basic cut'N'paste and
it seems to me everyone figures out for
themselves what
works best for themselves.
It is a very personal thing-no joke--
no two people i've ever talked to about it do it the same exact way-
it's something you develop, Wink
I think maybe going to the "Tutorials thread" is a great place
to start a small search and find a thing or two that
really catches your eye and feels like your style. Smile
http://photoshopcontest.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2127
BTW I do chop--alot--
maybe half the sources we have--I chop--
I don't chop good enough to get past my own criticism,hehe- Very Happy -
silly huh?




ScionShade

Location: VeniceFlaUS

Post Sat May 21, 2005 11:56 pm   Reply with quote         


Only 8 hours to go in the golfer contest--
I went ahead and posted the image I made for that contest
JUST to prove I actually DO still chop!!
Smile




screwloose

Location: FL

Post Sun May 22, 2005 11:57 am   Reply with quote         


Sorry I missed that one SS.

That was very cool!




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