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rockyjob
Why is the tiger and cariage so blured? makes no sense. The source is barely used here from what I see. Whats up with the desaturation?!! The only thing i'll give you credit for is the smoke. I don't mean to turn you down but nothing makes much sense.
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Tarmac
I disagree R.J. I went over this image this morning with a fine tooth, and from what I can see, over 75% of this image is from the original source. Only the engine, the cars and the toy tiger appear to be external. And as for it not making sense. ...
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Tarmac
It makes perfect sense, that is to me. Its a model toy engine locomoting through a scale model diorama. And it looks perfectly real as though I took the photo myself. Even down to the depth of field blur. It makes complete sense to me. Just my 2 bits.
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marcoballistic
I matched the blur, and the tiger is a visual gag as its a toy in the model carriage, hence why it is quite big. And no source use????
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rockyjob
By no source I meant very little source manipulated, of course.
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rockyjob
Tarmac wrote: "It makes perfect sense, that is to me. Its a model toy engine locomoting through a scale model diorama. And it looks perfectly real as though I took the photo myself." Dude!!! Seriously, just think a little... you're describing the scen
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rockyjob
scenery!!!!! I obviously meant the elements of the chop. Focal blur, blured tiger, ect...... Firstly tarmac why is the image be so photorealistic, in your opinion? Why is this image have so much more focal blur than the original? Could you please explain?
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rockyjob
Why is it so desaturated??? Is the source that desaturated? NO. So Tarmac, could you please, think and analyze things a bit more before you wrongly defend people from critics? A critique is a critique and it's made to better someones work...
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rockyjob
I've tried saying it nicely to mark in the past but he just doesn't listen or care at all, he always has an excuse for this and that, and that makes people think he's a pro and never makes mistakes so they admire him, just like you do.
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rockyjob
Dont get me wrong, marks a great guy... and i'm not saying I hate him, He's nice, suportive, funny... Just a bit stubborn ;P
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marcoballistic
so basically what you are saying is you do not get it, and because it is not done in a way you 'get' or care for, I should always listen to you, have no plain of though for my work at all, and you are always correct...
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marcoballistic
...have your opinion Rocky fair enough, more the merrier. but if you do not get something, do not announce you never get listened to. I have my ways of doing things, I nearly always have a reason for doing something a certain way...
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marcoballistic
... I have updated work in regards to what you and others have said... but that does not mean I always will.
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rockyjob
Alrighty fair enough, for now.... ;)
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marcoballistic
plus as you wish to know, the desaturation colour adjustment and tonal range is to depict the by gone age in which the steam engine was from, a reference to a different era from the tram cars of the original image....
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marcoballistic
...A calmer, softer look, for an more relaxed period in time. That, was my intention and though process behind it, not just a random use of image editing ;o)
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marcoballistic
& the tiger is light relief, to illustrate more so the model size of the piece, as if it was a real scene, the tiger would be classes as huge, in this instance it looks oversized, but is a toy, like the train. So they share their world as they are meant..
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Tarmac
Rockyjob, I remained polite when I disagreed with your opinion of Mark's work, and I even went so far as to explain to you the whys behind my own opinion. However, choosing to mangle your own original words into something you didn't actually say, ..
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Tarmac
makes you look rather foolish in the effort. My critique for you and advise in teaching others, is to focus more of your energy on eliminating your own fuzzy thinking and sloppy critique skills ...
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Tarmac
before you chose to put your name behind such, in front of 33 others who disagree with you.
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rockyjob
Again I'm not trying to make any enemies here tarmac, here's a link with more than 36 agaisnt the critiquer photoshopcontest.com... It's just a matter of opinion tarmac ;)
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marcoballistic
actually that was about 5 people against me, and against is the wrong word, and I updated that image several times. The comments section turned into a cool running visual joke, not nit picking and such
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marcoballistic
Rocky does not feel this image and has issues with it, that is cool, I happen to not agree, or warrant the points strong enough to make any alterations, as I see nothing to alter. Thanks for your support Tmac by the way, and your view is respected too..
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marcoballistic
...I think the problem here has come from Tmacs opinion being disregarded almost by Rocky, which is great for debate, but unfortunately I see it as a little churlish to knock an opinion, based on such a personal preference as Rocky's opinion is....
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marcoballistic
...everyone is allowed their own thinking on what they see. The 1's that truly learn are the 1's who listen to all sides. Mistaken or otherwise. Anyway, Tmac like this, Rocky does not, & Im perfectly happy with both it & all opinions rendered toward it
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Tarmac
R.J., my bias in all this meaningless squabbling is, that I have a love/hate relationship with two real locomotives everyday. I've also been around enough scale modelers and their hobby to know it rather well. And I take a lot of lousy,
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Tarmac
out of focus photographs. Tons of them actually. Here are two I took just yesterday. tinyurl.com... ... my point is, from my life's perspective I just can't see the blaring flaws in Mark's piece that you seemed to have picked up on.
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whySOserious
no way,Ove seen it on google!
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marcoballistic
I said the engine is external, qite a bit done to get this right in scene though
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