I dont like vote whores!
even worse are people who vote for themselves.
I haven't gotten very many Pm's.
But I have gotten some.
Hows your wrist doing

Since i got married it doesn't hurt so much.
Thanks for asking.

guys take your video ranting somewhere else! this is an important thread where we talk about comets or commas or something

Damn it people I siad way back when...and I said it in another thread but Im gunna say it one more time.....



so Reindude we need ya NOW!!!

no matter who cheats, one thing always happens here, the best ideas, backed with hard work, are the ones that rise to the top, someone thinks Claudio cheated, I say Mikey's dragon, and Couch's duck were the only comp. to Claud's, work which was very good by the way, I voted for the 3 of them, if you want to cheat, to score a few more bogus votes, enjoy your little world, it must be small, if cheating is so bad here, please show me an example of a bogus win.


OK, I know that it's hard to imagine that this didn't win, anfa must have called all his friends to cheat on this one

http://photoshopcontest.com/view-entry/104302/votes.html

Rey, this was stellar work

Agree with that Paul, that is some sweet ass Rey work, saying that though I also liked Anf's freaky crazy mutated glove type hand webbed thing.

On the subject of cheating etc, I have been accused of it many times, and its always a international event when it happens. Which is great fun. Admittedly waaaay back when I was fresh and new here, a rather large and foolish error was made by myself. But that was a drunken assisted mess. No excuse but thats the way it was.

Since then certain members have super-glued their eyebrow in the perminently raised position towards me. Sometimes opening threads saying I PM people for votes, or apparently just vote for people to get their votes back.

This is followed by countless people jumping to my defence saying it is a pile of fish mongers ass, or things to that effect. Which is true. Initially I was shocked, but also probably deserved it for my early PSC disaster. But now I just take it as one of the things that happens here

But hey, thats my experience of the whole situation.

From a general point of view, I have never really understood why some members have aliases. I have also been on the wrong end of quite a few of these. If your going to attack someone, have the balls to do it under your own name.

Also it is pointless and damaging to the community to vote for yourself with an alias, or just get all ya mate to sign up, do 10 crud entries just so they can vote just for you also.

But like Dunno says, how do you stop this. Sure aliases can be spotted as long as they use the same computer/IP Addy. But there are ways round that. especialy if you have access to an open network.

In conclusion maybe IP records should be taken and anyone found out to be cheating should either be totally removed from the site, or given a very strict final and only warning. I should have been, and was suprised and grateful not to be ejected way back at the start of my PSC life.

But this community has actually taught me alot, and I do not mean PS skills, I mean friendship, trust, loyalty, and above all helping those that need help. I hope I come across like that, and I do indeed help when needed. Like alot of us do here.

This is definately for me one of the finest places on the web, and I am sure quite a few would agree. But cheating like anything can be a problem, and addressing it is a problem.

Ok I think I have rambled and tripped over my words for long enough.

Thanks for listening, take care of yourself, aaannnnnd each other

Ah ha, explains why i always score so low
So now all i need to do is get me some friends, follow some vote whoring classes and then i'm good to go...
any one got any recomendations?

not exactly what I meant MT

Oh.
This.
Is.
So.
Typical.



Let's just call it like it is: it SUCKS to be here. But we come. Like an addict returning to the needle. Even though it is not too good for us.

If you run a "competitive" site, you WILL get cheaters. This is not my opinion, it is HISTORY has gone on in most EVERY competitive system ever created.

Some of those cheaters will get caught and feel some shame and decide that their lives are nothing but a lie and change their ways. This is a good thing. But many many will actually believe that "winning" makes them "better" than everyone else... and they'll just come up with better excuses as to why they have to cheat.

Ho Hum.

Final point: this site has SOOOOOOO many members now that we also have a LOT more people who feel the need to cheat, people who actually think ANY of this here at PSC really matters in the great SCHEME of things.

The biggest feeling I have around this situation is sadness.

I can only say:

Cheating here on PSC is cheating yourself. If you think that you are a better chopper by whoring in the votes....well be happy.

I can honestly say that I do not whore for votes...and do not get that many votes (at least not as many as I expect). But I cherish the votes I get, as they have looked upon my work and found it worth mentioning something.

So if it is true what Scion says, well that's a pitty, but most of al for the cheaters themselves.

I say we use water boarding to find out who are the aliases!
It's a no brainer"

Oh, puh-leaaaase.... ya saying I friendly vote for my brother for him to win??? Would I let him 3rd in this contest if I only voted for him? http://photoshopcontest.com/photoshop-contest/1848/dodge-viper.html?o=votes My vote for the 2nd place let him in third... and if ya check, I voted for the first too... AND IT WAS ANONYMOUS!!! I voted for the entries I liked... We don't even know when each other post anymore, since I don't live with him anymore...

brother or not, Arc and Hell always do top notch work, so calling it a whore vote is in my opinion a bit stupid

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It would be a bit stupid and that's why I never referred to these as "whore votes". I think you're missing my point...


True vote whoring would be something like going on a mass late-night email campaign about your upcoming post.

Or, say, literally buying someone's vote for the next year.

However, there's nothing wrong with Arc and Hellraiser voting for each other.
As brothers, it would be odd if they didn't vote for each other. Their work just happens to be consistently good and the votes are deserved.
If Nifft exchanges votes with a friend, who cares? It's only natural.

I'd concentrate on the more significant efforts that some people put out to obtain votes.