[quote="Micose"]learn the classic bases, try to learn to work from scratch ,experiment AND make the tuts, then try the artsy thing.... [/quote]

I would love to do the tuts but I have a very old Adobe program that was put out I think in 1993. I don't have the money to spend on photoshop or others. It's a pretty basic prog and doesn't have all of the features needed for the tuts, so I guess I'll just have to learn to do by doing and hopefully get suggestions along the way...suggestions that I can work with my program.

Thanks Micose, I really appreciate you taking the time.