Perhaps you should look up the definition of pragmatism then.No, where on works may be an avenue to achieve a certain goal, but it is not the goal itself. You yourself define the goal as a” successful and properlife,” but absent an absolute standard, you cannot say what a ‘successful’ or ‘proper’ life is. As I said, pragmatism fails in that it cannot define the proper goals to work towards.Wouldn’t that make you intolerant of my pragmatic worldview? For shame.Sorry, I am commanded to “cast down vain reasoning,” better just keep yours (other than pragmatism) to yourself if you do not want it exposed for what it is.

i found the hand of god

This thread gives me a headache. I should've realized there's no point in debating this. It's one of those things where no one wins.

Anddd now I have a headache...

I beg to differ

I don't feel like wasting my time any further. As I stated in my original post, neither of our views are going to be changed.

Since you find it necessary to be disrespectful while trying to prove your point, I will not continue debating with you.

Then the message is painfully simple ...


.. and be happy

hahahah I love that

Realizing I can't get anywhere in this argument, I have channeled my energy creatively
by writing a short screenplay.


"Proof That Breakfast Exists".

Clerk: Welcome to McDonald's, how may I help you?

Canuck: I'd like an Egg McMuffin breakfast meal.

Clerk: I'm sorry sir, it's noon and we no longer serve breakfast

Canuck: This is a fallacy. You say it's noon but what is the objective standard of truth in your universe?

Clerk: I don't follow

Canuck: Tell me, how do you account for the universal, unchanging, immaterial laws of breakfast?

Clerk: That's just our policy sir

Canuck: Well then you're a child molester

Clerk: Excuse me?

Canuck: It's one of 2 things - either you're still serving breakfast, or you enjoy fondling children.
Which one is it?

Clerk: Well I'm not a child molester!

Canuck: Good, then we're on the same page. Now throw in an extra hash brown and I'll forget this ever happened.

***Fin***

Well, naturally I disagree with regards to the disrespect, but none was intended. I should have exposed the inconsistency of your worldview without questioning your possible adherence to actions that cannot be considered 'wrong' apart from God. My apologies.

Cheers,

Sye

So you don't think implying that I am a "rapist, murderer, terrorist, or child molester" is disrespectful?

For those reading along it should be noted that way back on page 6 of this thread, on June 10, 2006 I wrote:


So now, over 2 and a half years later, no one has yet answered those questions. Sure, go ahead, post your screenplays, and your mockery, but don't think that it is not glaringly obvious that those questions have not been answered.

Thanks for the laugh. I had a rather shitty day today.

http://www.tutormetutorials.com/godanddeath.html

These are my views and my reasoning.

I will be removing this within a couple days.

I did not imply that you were, only that since your apparent worldview cannot justify the wrongness of those actions that we can only hope that you were not. That you were offended reveals more about the inadequacy of your worldview, then the perceived offensive nature of my comment. Still, I did apologize.