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					TheShaman
					
					
					  
					Location: Peaksville, Southeast of Disorder
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					 Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:42 am   Reply with quote
 billtvshow wrote: #4: I am currently discussing a rules change with the mods that will essentially treat future surrender type entries as no shows. 
I like this. Don't have time?
 
Take 10 more minutes out of your surrender and you can do a poor cut and paste.
 
Besides, you can have a pretty decent cut and paste chop done in less than an hour.
 OneChiefRocker wrote:  can we look into adding "titles" to entries? Gracias! 
no titles for entries.
 
work should be self explanatory.
 
like someone here told me long ago.
 
You shouldn't have to explain your work with a catchy title or a lengthy story in the authors notes.
 
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					OneChiefRocker
					
					
					  
					Location: Republic of Seychelles
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					 Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:03 am   Reply with quote
 TheShaman wrote: billtvshow wrote: #4: I am currently discussing a rules change with the mods that will essentially treat future surrender type entries as no shows. 
I like this. Don't have time?
 
Take 10 more minutes out of your surrender and you can do a poor cut and paste.
 
Besides, you can have a pretty decent cut and paste chop done in less than an hour.
 OneChiefRocker wrote:  can we look into adding "titles" to entries? Gracias! 
no titles for entries.
 
work should be self explanatory.
 
like someone here told me long ago.
 
You shouldn't have to explain your work with a catchy title or a lengthy story in the authors notes.
 
a picture is worth a thousand words after all.
Do you consider "entries" to be artwork? Is so, titles are needed! No "titles" are like eating cereal with a fork...yeah you can do it but, not have enjoyable as spoon. I agree about "description" and I do not consider "description" or notes to be a title. Not only are titles a bridge to the viewer, they are also part of the art. IMO.
 
 
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					shane.e.randall
					
					
					  
					Location: Indiana, PA
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					 Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:22 am   Reply with quote
 Quote: The problem with this is the risk of 'non-english speaking' peoples accents showing through in my opinion...making it easier to identify artwork...
 Also, in my opinion titles add a dynamic that takes away from the chop...often they are used to describe a chop and its story (I do this myself all the time).  I think the image alone should be able to do all of that. Especially in the H2H, it should be chop v. chop, not chop and title v. chop and title.
 Quote: Agreed, I vote no on Proposition 342-A.1.1 to add titles to the H2H contestant entries.
 But I do believe Sen. Watch them drift's comment about "non-English speaking" peoples is politically incorrect.
 He should have stated "Non Merican speaking" got dang aliens from outer space!
 Quote: It's a bit early to be hitting the drink, mate. You have a problem.  
Only problem I ever have is running out of beer!
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					TheShaman
					
					
					  
					Location: Peaksville, Southeast of Disorder
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					 Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:35 am   Reply with quote
 OneChiefRocker wrote: TheShaman wrote: billtvshow wrote: #4: I am currently discussing a rules change with the mods that will essentially treat future surrender type entries as no shows. 
I like this. Don't have time?
 
Take 10 more minutes out of your surrender and you can do a poor cut and paste.
 
Besides, you can have a pretty decent cut and paste chop done in less than an hour.
 OneChiefRocker wrote:  can we look into adding "titles" to entries? Gracias! 
no titles for entries.
 
work should be self explanatory.
 
like someone here told me long ago.
 
You shouldn't have to explain your work with a catchy title or a lengthy story in the authors notes.
 
a picture is worth a thousand words after all.
Do you consider "entries" to be artwork? Is so, titles are needed! No "titles" are like eating cereal with a fork...yeah you can do it but, not have enjoyable as spoon. I agree about "description" and I do not consider "description" or notes to be a title. Not only are titles a bridge to the viewer, they are also part of the art. IMO.
Maybe it's just me...
 
when I go to an art gallery, I look at the art.
 
Be Pablo Picasso. He named his shit: "Woman with folded arms" 
 
van Gogh: "Starry Night" 
 
DONT be Willem de Kooning – Police Gazette
 
IF I decide to look at what it's called, most times I say to myself? WTF!?! Or yep... that's exactly what that is.. A sunflower.
 
Is Kooning's piece interesting? sure. Does the title make any sense to me? no. Do I care now? not really.
 
Sure titles can be catchy or funny and can even convey what you're trying to get across. 
 
Hell, I do it too (in the daily contests) cause I know it may sway your vote.
 
But should someone lose to a catchy title if you have no clue whats going on in the art? 
 
I say for this type of contest... NO.
 
H2H is about Art vs Art. NOT Art vs Catchy Title |  
		 
		
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					OneChiefRocker
					
					
					  
					Location: Republic of Seychelles
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					 Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:00 am   Reply with quote
 TheShaman wrote: OneChiefRocker wrote: TheShaman wrote: billtvshow wrote: #4: I am currently discussing a rules change with the mods that will essentially treat future surrender type entries as no shows. 
I like this. Don't have time?
 
Take 10 more minutes out of your surrender and you can do a poor cut and paste.
 
Besides, you can have a pretty decent cut and paste chop done in less than an hour.
 OneChiefRocker wrote:  can we look into adding "titles" to entries? Gracias! 
no titles for entries.
 
work should be self explanatory.
 
like someone here told me long ago.
 
You shouldn't have to explain your work with a catchy title or a lengthy story in the authors notes.
 
a picture is worth a thousand words after all.
Do you consider "entries" to be artwork? Is so, titles are needed! No "titles" are like eating cereal with a fork...yeah you can do it but, not have enjoyable as spoon. I agree about "description" and I do not consider "description" or notes to be a title. Not only are titles a bridge to the viewer, they are also part of the art. IMO.
Maybe it's just me...
 
when I go to an art gallery, I look at the art.
 
Be Pablo Picasso. He named his shit: "Woman with folded arms" 
 
van Gogh: "Starry Night" 
 
DONT be Willem de Kooning – Police Gazette
 
IF I decide to look at what it's called, most times I say to myself? WTF!?! Or yep... that's exactly what that is.. A sunflower.
 
Is Kooning's piece interesting? sure. Does the title make any sense to me? no. Do I care now? not really.
 
Sure titles can be catchy or funny and can even convey what you're trying to get across. 
 
Hell, I do it too (in the daily contests) cause I know it may sway your vote.
 
But should someone lose to a catchy title if you have no clue whats going on in the art? 
 
I say for this type of contest... NO.
 
H2H is about Art vs Art. NOT Art vs Catchy Title
Thanks for your explaination. Would you agree that a title is part of the art as much as a title for a song is still part of the song....or series. 
 
...And do people lose to a catchy title or description? I'm intrigued by this. Why does PSC have this as an option in regular contests then. Should it not be just the "art vs art" (or posting order vs posting order) sake? What do you consider do be a catchy title. Thanks. You have an interesting point of view. 
 
How about this one..."I'll play it first and tell you what it is later." - Miles Davis
 
Great discussion here! Rock on!
 
 
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					 Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:00 am   Reply with quote
 Nah, no titles needed. If the option is there, It leaves the chance for leaving clues to the chopper identity. Even though its fairly easy to tell until the higher rounds. 
 
 
 
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					anfa
					
					
					  
					Location: Geordieland, UK
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					 Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:21 am   Reply with quote
 TheShaman wrote: OneChiefRocker wrote: TheShaman wrote: billtvshow wrote: #4: I am currently discussing a rules change with the mods that will essentially treat future surrender type entries as no shows. 
I like this. Don't have time?
 
Take 10 more minutes out of your surrender and you can do a poor cut and paste.
 
Besides, you can have a pretty decent cut and paste chop done in less than an hour.
 OneChiefRocker wrote:  can we look into adding "titles" to entries? Gracias! 
no titles for entries.
 
work should be self explanatory.
 
like someone here told me long ago.
 
You shouldn't have to explain your work with a catchy title or a lengthy story in the authors notes.
 
a picture is worth a thousand words after all.
Do you consider "entries" to be artwork? Is so, titles are needed! No "titles" are like eating cereal with a fork...yeah you can do it but, not have enjoyable as spoon. I agree about "description" and I do not consider "description" or notes to be a title. Not only are titles a bridge to the viewer, they are also part of the art. IMO.
Maybe it's just me...
 
when I go to an art gallery, I look at the art.
 
Be Pablo Picasso. He named his shit: "Woman with folded arms" 
 
van Gogh: "Starry Night" 
 
DONT be Willem de Kooning – Police Gazette
 
IF I decide to look at what it's called, most times I say to myself? WTF!?! Or yep... that's exactly what that is.. A sunflower.
 
Is Kooning's piece interesting? sure. Does the title make any sense to me? no. Do I care now? not really.
 
Sure titles can be catchy or funny and can even convey what you're trying to get across. 
 
Hell, I do it too (in the daily contests) cause I know it may sway your vote.
 
But should someone lose to a catchy title if you have no clue whats going on in the art? 
 
I say for this type of contest... NO.
 
H2H is about Art vs Art. NOT Art vs Catchy Title
Many moons ago, I was at a Picasso exhibition in Newcastle and I burst out laughing when I read the title "Woman Pissing". It got funnier because when I moved on, other people were going straight to it to see what I was laughing at.   |  
		 
		
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					TheShaman
					
					
					  
					Location: Peaksville, Southeast of Disorder
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					 Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:29 am   Reply with quote
 OneChiefRocker wrote:  What do you consider do be a catchy title. Thanks. You have an interesting point of view. 
 How about this one..."I'll play it first and tell you what it is later." - Miles Davis
 
 Great discussion here! Rock on!
 
sure. I'll use one of mine.
Old McDonald HAD a Farm 
 
the entry is, in my opinion, one of my better ones. BUT with the catchy title, it finishes off the job. |  
		 
		
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					OneChiefRocker
					
					
					  
					Location: Republic of Seychelles
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					 Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:54 am   Reply with quote
 TheShaman wrote: OneChiefRocker wrote:  What do you consider do be a catchy title. Thanks. You have an interesting point of view. 
 How about this one..."I'll play it first and tell you what it is later." - Miles Davis
 
 Great discussion here! Rock on!
 
sure. I'll use one of mine.
Old McDonald HAD a Farm 
 
the entry is, in my opinion, one of my better ones. BUT with the catchy title, it finishes off the job.
Cool! Yeah that title helps the art!
 
 
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 And if I find out you go near my locker, I swear to God I'll give you a karate chop right in the head.
 
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					OneChiefRocker
					
					
					  
					Location: Republic of Seychelles
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					 Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:56 am   Reply with quote
 anfa wrote: TheShaman wrote: OneChiefRocker wrote: TheShaman wrote: billtvshow wrote: #4: I am currently discussing a rules change with the mods that will essentially treat future surrender type entries as no shows. 
I like this. Don't have time?
 
Take 10 more minutes out of your surrender and you can do a poor cut and paste.
 
Besides, you can have a pretty decent cut and paste chop done in less than an hour.
 OneChiefRocker wrote:  can we look into adding "titles" to entries? Gracias! 
no titles for entries.
 
work should be self explanatory.
 
like someone here told me long ago.
 
You shouldn't have to explain your work with a catchy title or a lengthy story in the authors notes.
 
a picture is worth a thousand words after all.
Do you consider "entries" to be artwork? Is so, titles are needed! No "titles" are like eating cereal with a fork...yeah you can do it but, not have enjoyable as spoon. I agree about "description" and I do not consider "description" or notes to be a title. Not only are titles a bridge to the viewer, they are also part of the art. IMO.
Maybe it's just me...
 
when I go to an art gallery, I look at the art.
 
Be Pablo Picasso. He named his shit: "Woman with folded arms" 
 
van Gogh: "Starry Night" 
 
DONT be Willem de Kooning – Police Gazette
 
IF I decide to look at what it's called, most times I say to myself? WTF!?! Or yep... that's exactly what that is.. A sunflower.
 
Is Kooning's piece interesting? sure. Does the title make any sense to me? no. Do I care now? not really.
 
Sure titles can be catchy or funny and can even convey what you're trying to get across. 
 
Hell, I do it too (in the daily contests) cause I know it may sway your vote.
 
But should someone lose to a catchy title if you have no clue whats going on in the art? 
 
I say for this type of contest... NO.
 
H2H is about Art vs Art. NOT Art vs Catchy Title
Many moons ago, I was at a Picasso exhibition in Newcastle and I burst out laughing when I read the title "Woman Pissing". It got funnier because when I moved on, other people were going straight to it to see what I was laughing at.  
That's wicked awesome!......or the exhibition curator's staff, was fucking with their patrons!  
 
 
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					 Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:15 am   Reply with quote
 Congratulations to my opponent. Good luck in the next round. 
 
 
 
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					arcaico
					
					
					  
					Location: Brazil
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					 Fri Aug 08, 2014 9:27 am   Reply with quote
 New PSC Fun Facts:
 You know the PSC voting standards gone crazy when the entry that says SORRY, NO TIME has more votes than you.
 
 You know the PSC voting standards gone crazy when the entry that is a senseless overlay of the source has more votes than you.
 
 You know the PSC voting standards gone crazy when you're not even the first most voted loser.
 
 Anyway... good luck to the other players... see you in 2015.
 
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					anfa
					
					
					  
					Location: Geordieland, UK
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					 Fri Aug 08, 2014 10:59 am   Reply with quote
 arcaico wrote: New PSC Fun Facts:
 You know the PSC voting standards gone crazy when the entry that says SORRY, NO TIME has more votes than you.
 
 You know the PSC voting standards gone crazy when the entry that is a senseless overlay of the source has more votes than you.
 
 You know the PSC voting standards gone crazy when you're not even the first most voted loser.
 
 Anyway... good luck to the other players... see you in 2015.
 
Get the sand out of your vagina and lose gracefully. |  
		 
		
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					TheShaman
					
					
					  
					Location: Peaksville, Southeast of Disorder
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					 Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:48 pm   Reply with quote
 anfa wrote: arcaico wrote: New PSC Fun Facts:
 You know the PSC voting standards gone crazy when the entry that says SORRY, NO TIME has more votes than you.
 
 You know the PSC voting standards gone crazy when the entry that is a senseless overlay of the source has more votes than you.
 
 You know the PSC voting standards gone crazy when you're not even the first most voted loser.
 
 Anyway... good luck to the other players... see you in 2015.
 
Get the sand out of your vagina and lose gracefully.
He's got a legit beef about his opponent not voting for him... Not a 'written rule' but it is kinda good form.
 
they would have tied otherwise. |  
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