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yello_piggy

Location: Vienna/Austria/Europe

Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:43 am   Reply with quote         






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TheShaman

Location: Peaksville, Southeast of Disorder

Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:04 am   Reply with quote         


The only thing I can think of to fix this would be to make a box thats 65mm and then size it yourself. or you can outline the text and then resize it to the correct mm.

Seems like most fonts (set at lets say 12pt) do not have the exact same height. Drives me nuts when a customer says I'd like the text to be 1/8" in height. We do everything by points. So I just make a box thats 1/8" high and then resize it. Because 12pt Helvetica bold is about 2mm smaller than say 12pt Impact.

Hope that helps Yello




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FootFungas

Location: East Coast!

Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:33 am   Reply with quote         


this is pretty obvious, but you do have the text selected right?




Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:36 am   Reply with quote         


my guess

the height specifies the height between the ascender and the descender height of a font.
So the 45mm is actually the distance between the baseline and the ascender height.





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yello_piggy

Location: Vienna/Austria/Europe

Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:48 am   Reply with quote         


Grefix wrote:
my guess

the height specifies the height between the ascender and the descender height of a font.
So the 45mm is actually the distance between the baseline and the ascender height.



hm, no, this gives different values... I did it also by using a box, like shaman suggested, but excuse me, we reached 21st century, this cant be the right way... Shocked





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TheShaman

Location: Peaksville, Southeast of Disorder

Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:57 am   Reply with quote         


bah. I don't have time for poking a prodding and figuring out such minor things. If I find a simple solution to a problem, regardless of what era this may be. I'll use it Laughing And in this case, this is what I do at work. May be backward, but it gives you what you want... Quickly




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yello_piggy

Location: Vienna/Austria/Europe

Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:01 am   Reply with quote         


only result counts, youre right, but in this case, I relied on the entered values, that bring a different result. But maybe there is a fact around, I do not know yet. I was also thinking on grefixs idea...looks like I have to ask adobe directly...




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vokaris
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Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:19 am   Reply with quote         


Listen to what Grefix said, same here:
http://rwillustrator.blogspot.com/2007/09/ask-mordy-type-size.html

The point size of a font is measured as the entire height of the font -- including the ascenders and descenders. In fact, you can think of this formula: Ascender + X-Height + Descender = Point Size.

If you quickly want to set some text to a specific actual height, convert it to outlines and scale it conventionally. But you really can't use the Point Size as a way to measure the physical height of a single character.



You can try this workaround
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.eed5198.3bc1d7ce




yello_piggy

Location: Vienna/Austria/Europe

Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:46 am   Reply with quote         


thank you for the links! but as I mentioned above, when I add all values (heights), I just reach 60 mm when I enter 65 mm, inclusivly all scenders...crap! today, world has become more complicated Laughing




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vokaris
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Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:48 am   Reply with quote         


Here's a trick that might help


- type a single caps letter (X or H) and set to the desired font
(note that rounded characters C, S, O extend above/below the straight letters)
- go to Effects - Path - Outline object
- by default the Transform palette should now display he physical dimensions of the outline
- change to your desired height (keep the height/width proportions locked)
- change your text, or alternately, write down the real typographic text height (in points or inches or centimeters) as displayed in the Character palette. Note that this value will be different for different fonts.
- optionally you can remove the dummy outline effect from the Appearance palette




yello_piggy

Location: Vienna/Austria/Europe

Post Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:01 pm   Reply with quote         


thank you vokaris for your input. I took the detour to get my plot-letters in the right size, but almost went nuts on the way...




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Wiz

Location: Brisbane Australia

Post Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:15 pm   Reply with quote         


PEBCAK... RTFM Wink

Wiz




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ReinMan

Location: Kingston, ONTARIO, CAN

Post Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:32 pm   Reply with quote         


what is a font?

I've read of them, but don't really believe they exist.

Huh..




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Marx-Man

Location: The United Kingdom!

Post Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:52 pm   Reply with quote         


ZZ-ZZ-ZZ-ZZ-RR-RR-RR-RR-RR-RR

Why is it not working?






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