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Crowned
no
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Crowned
everything is source for sure. but the source is completely lost Micose. I have to be sincere.
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Micose
dont vote for it and have fun Crowned.im sure there will be people to see the obvious work on the source, with bevels, cuts, i even made this Xmas plant "houx" in ftrench); and it same process as the halloween style(i cut th twatrermellon as evebdy here.
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Micose
i really dont know why u find its lost, maybe its the tv screen that bothers u, its relly not uan objective comment.
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Crowned
It was a ciritique. You may take it or reject it. Don't be a typical french and start talking about objectivity (which is of course owned by the ville des lumieres). I like most of your chops, but this one to me is not good in terms of source use.
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Micose
thats the point, if i describe with words what id did,it would appear like a classical use of source. How can u say that the source is lost while its what takes 80 percent of the image, is tjust that, ur critic would have been welcome here if u it was
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Micose
explained with words and not with "lost", critics is about facts .Now just Tell me whatshould i supposed to do, starting from this idea of tvset, but that would better use the source, tell me ...
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Crowned
in fact, you can insert a tv set in any source. It doesn't make a difference if it is a watermelon or a frog.
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Micose
right.enough.you r right my chop is a big shit.
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Micose
would u please forget me a minute man thx
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Micose
u come here and and put trouble more than critic. thx.
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Micose
i asked u politely to put words on yr critic cuz i m sure this is the kind i ordinary accept but the fact is that ur explanations were very approximative.
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Micose
Then u vote and i look like an ass...thx mate.Did u look at yr first comment :"no" what this means ? no what , no"future", no "shit",no "vote" (nah u just voted).if at least 10 percent of wht u said was true.i would
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Micose
i would have surely think about it, and i tried to understand the prob? but im still here, loosing my time answering u...
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Micose
i posted one pic per day since one month,and i didnt see any Crowned around, but ur come back is full of anger,surely the early depressing days of a new year ?
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Micose
okay i see this is ur sourcepic, whatever if u expected to see an abstract from me maybe, or a skin disease stuff, well i wanted to do sthg more unexpected.Could be a nice feature to see by advance who's the source pic from.
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Micose
its quite diffrent that my usual chops,and i like very much the noise i created on the face and the cut in the watermelon too.
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Crowned
you need more fuel? The vote was supposed to be a comment, it was a mistake. I said no, because I did not like the work. Maybe I am blind. Not because you chopped 30 consecutive days that you work deserves to be worshipped. It is not a matter of quantity
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Crowned
Depression? Not at all. I had to work on other stuff and I did not have time to chop, but I came everyday to vote and comment when an entry got my attention. I participate in my own way.
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Crowned
don't be emotional about it Naiko, you know I am sincere and honest.
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Soze
Naiko, you have 22 votes, and with this one 21 comments. I like very much your work and voted for it. But art is on very personal interpretation. Your style is always great. but in a community is normal to receive bad an good critiques. A friend.
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Micose
what are u talking about guys? . I dont question facts of like/not like etc...d...we talked about use of source, not only i dont find it uses the source correctly, buti find its less good than my usual stuuff, less spectacular
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Micose
conclusion: id ont want u to find it good, i want u to get the fact that Crowned's arguments would have been better for another chop, in another time,thats just this.
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Soze
In my opinion your use of source is good.
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Micose
if i pointed the number of chops that i did, it was just to say, that i would accept if for instance Granulated would had criticized : he was there for checking my stuffs previously.I dont accept that ur comin from nowhere and said that.
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Micose
guys u ar lost. why do u bother me on this chop? thats is f@@@@classical use of source, it will just push me to do more weird abstract next time, u just made it.
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Micose
Or u are gonna make me leave this place.i dunno, but u just made sthg.
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Micose
of course it is Soze,its darn classic.Now i just got sthg, while i was asleep that nite, Crowned ... maybe u would have liked fairies and dark brownish deviantart typical gothique macabre image, maybe u noticed nobody did surely because they are themselve
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Micose
bored with that imagery and wanted to do some nice classical work to.
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Micose
now will u please excuse me but i m trying to get a life...
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Crowned
I did not know you were on pills, I won't comment anymore on any of your entries since you're too sensitive. I will only vote and thank you for staying here among us, we who have no artistic understanding like you. I will vote and worship Micasso, Amen.
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Micose
hahaha, u keep saying im sensitive about this which is wrong, but i keep asking u what u can read above....gimme arguments
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Micose
i never talked about artistic skillz or whatever. U just said bad things about people, i don't even think im better than anybody, i haven't been brought up like this...u just try to make me telll things, but u wont manage to...
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Crowned
First, you always use the same colors no matter what is the source. I know the any artist has his own palette, but we are in a digital world guided by a source image that dictates its own palette. To me, the TV set chop failed to adapt to the source.
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Crowned
Like many of your chops (many are good) failed to adapt to the source as weel. It seems that you adapt the source to you not the opposite. That is why I said no.
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Micose
U and i have better things,whatever , to do than this im sure.Please believe in my sincerety too, when I just wanted to argue about ur idea of using a source, i never thought u attacked me on anything else Crowned.
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Micose
now 2007 is starting for everybody, i mean ,its unity and peace that are the only words that come to my mind.
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Crowned
weel=well
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Micose
u say things that i could tell u too man. Brown-dark-surreal, and sometimes a classical advert for a price contest, am i wrong ?
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Crowned
It is nonsense, we are not fighting. It is about a comment on a chop. What peace has to do with this? What is great about art is the possibility to say 'No, I don't like it' . Take this democratic mindset from art and it will be suffocating.
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Micose
we are on the public place, please pm now to continue...it becomes more serious and technical stuff...we will be cooler in pm to discuss about this.
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Micose
and what is the damn record i for comments in a chop...i think we could make it if we continue here lol
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Micose
art critics...now...u find its good ? rarely , i know only a bunch of good art critics, and AGAIN, we didnt talk about art !
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Micose
we were supposed to talk about "use of source ina chop in a Site on the web" only
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Crowned
why are we afraid to talk in public? It is awesome to share with others. I told that you adapt the source to you not the opposite. You adapt the source to you not the opposite. It is a clear comment, take it or leave it, it is your choice.
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Micose
this, i get, yea, i adapt, but not always, always would be too muich, if u have the good eye, and i think u have it u will see much more different ways of working in my portofolio.
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Micose
but its becoming a bit abstract this comment about the "relationship" i have with the source cuz
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Micose
okay, ive got an idea: i noticed that Bigbuck has a particularity, he's really good at finding a unik use of the source, each work that he makes is really surprising n neat. Now i go in yr direction man, BUT (thers a but(t))
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Micose
i think we enter here a matter of thinking, me, i can see forms in pics that i will use, natural wood...for instance, check some chops like that, thers one, a piece of wood, i used
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Micose
evrythy single yet/naturally etched shapes to make a body of woman, i watched that source and its graphical properties were so rich...
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Micose
another exemple is my spitting dude made from a...wait
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Micose
photoshopcontest.com... it speaks for itself.i know its not that often that it happens, but it happens jeez!
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Micose
or this photoshopcontest.com... whatever ...dont try tio sum up people.Its bad!
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Micose
but its way cool to chat and argue here, u right! sometimes its good even if its not always about established facts.
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Crowned
true, you brought some facts and I have voted for the aaaa tchooooom guy because it was awesome. I did not vote for the tv set because it is a failure (to me). You tried, bravo! But you did not succeed.
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Micose
i know, i NEVEr whinning about u find it good or bad, we talked about use of source and it looks like its an matter that is more complicated than a simple "no".
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Crowned
tHis one is a good one to me and 46 other voters: photoshopcontest.com... this one is not that good to me except 13 voters: photoshopcontest.com...
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Crowned
to me and many members except 13 voters
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Crowned
here is a fact: photoshopcontest.com...
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Micose
facts that we all know...i didnt waited for votes for the 2nd one u mentionned, but i m sharpenning some technique, may i ?
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Micose
and wrong example, it shares votes with another chop the same day, the other one has a bit more votes and i obviously know why.
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dfwsusan
I haven't read all of it..but when that was pretty low of Crowned to comment with this "if you expect that people say wow everytime your put your hands on a chop, well you are in trouble." that is just plain rude...and no one would want to hear that.
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Crowned
Dfsusan, with all the respect I owe you, I think that it was not due a comment. It was true and it the case of many others that get mad when you comment and point mistakes in their chops.
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Micose
y didnt point out thr right mistake man, at least if u had said "perspective is off", i would have understand that, or maybe its just me..hey....like u and ur how to use a source" own personal philosophy.bullshits....
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Crowned
how about this: photoshopcontest.com... You closed your comments on Dabbi's chop by these words: "So plz believe that i don't find it bad at all...its just a shout about creativity."
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Micose
Thats a a fact that u take yr time to search links. Thats a fact that i was pretty much exagerating in wht i said to dabdi.
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Crowned
I did not search. I did not forget that is all.
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Micose
whatever...u just voted for a chop that used badly the source and kept the shitty comments for me... im must be some easy target, iyts what i think.
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Crowned
I told that that vote was meant to be a comment, I clicked the wrong button.
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Micose
i dont think about mine
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Crowned
sometimes you have to encourage an idea or a new chopper... But when it is about choopers with experience, I tend to be picky and tougher. Maybe I voted for a bad chop only to encourage the chopper because I thought he has potential
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Micose
whatever, thx again to tell me ways to work Ive never done previously...lol.
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Micose
...jokin of course... but it wouldnt come to mind to "help" Marcoballistic for instance, in his way of workin, he knows what he has to do, and most of all he does what he wants. I encourage too, i know what u mean.
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Micose
i pmed some choppers n said i appreciated this or that direction, and i never said "no" like u did (its what i didn't like the most i think) , which shorts any good debate...but useless typing.
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Crowned
I hope you remember this allways, because you forgot how bad it can be to tell people what to do and not to do, the case od Dabbi is one of them. You accused him of imitating deviantart style while he only wanted to chop like he wants.
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Crowned
treat others as you would like to be treated. Now that I did the same thing on purpose, you felt uncomfortable. Concerning Marcoballistic, I always said why I don't like many of his chops. Perspective and shadows are often crooked. He knows that.
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