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DaVinci
Location: The Netherlands
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 Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:35 am Reply with quote
Pearcinator wrote: If it happens like last year then it will be the least likely thing that has ever happened.
*last year flashback*
Me and my mate Jorzza were up against both the finalists from H2H 2008 (Vunt and Hellraiser) in the FIRST ROUND! Being the only personal friend who enjoys PSC the odds of that happening were incredibly small i would assume.
Stupid Hellraiser and his 'minister of silly walks' from Monty Python! Curse him for thinking of something so unbelievably amazing as that...i hope we (especially me) dont get another crappy source image for the 1st round (the wasp sucked people...i dont care what u think...it sucked!)
*return to the modern day*
Yeah....that was fun lets do it again! Im in and so is Jorzza...this is gonna be awesome!
STFUAC
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:48 am Reply with quote
Eve wrote: yes...and if you're lucky, you won't be up against last year's winner in Round 2.
Wow, thts lucky, I was up against the winner in round ONE. haha.  
Pearcinator was in it with me too, his opponent came 2nd. lol.
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cafn8d
Location: Massachusetts
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:47 am Reply with quote
TofuTheGreat wrote: dbbowling wrote: According to splodge as of March 22nd...
We have 146 people registered for H2H 2009.
Another 50 aliase.... I mean entrants and we'd be at 196 and able to run with first-round byes for the top seeds. 
Okay, I understand why in regular playoffs the number of teams / players has to be to the power of two so that EVERY round is divisible by 2 and we wind up with 2 finalists to face-off... but do we need a specific number to give first round byes to top seeds? I thought it was just whatever the difference was between 128 and how many signed up = number of byes could be given out...? 
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:03 am Reply with quote
Why give the "top seeds" a bye?
Seems kind of pointless.
Let em all compete on an even playing field.
Last man standing wins.
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TofuTheGreat
Location: Back where I belong.
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:09 am Reply with quote
cafn8d wrote: TofuTheGreat wrote: dbbowling wrote: According to splodge as of March 22nd...
We have 146 people registered for H2H 2009.
Another 50 aliase.... I mean entrants and we'd be at 196 and able to run with first-round byes for the top seeds.
Okay, I understand why in regular playoffs the number of teams / players has to be to the power of two so that EVERY round is divisible by 2 and we wind up with 2 finalists to face-off... but do we need a specific number to give first round byes to top seeds? I thought it was just whatever the difference was between 128 and how many signed up = number of byes could be given out...?
It's a personal preference of mine to have as few first round byes as possible.
You could probably have an odd number of byes but that would weight a bracket differently. Depends on what supa/tutor have in the code.
I'm not the math guru. However I believe that the number of entrants needs to be a power of two or evenly divisible by four. Since we're at 146 (and hopefully higher) that would be 36.5 byes. Doesn't work. Now 148 would allow for 37 byes. If I'm correct (and vokaris, supa, tutor, grefix, btvs, etc. feel free to correct me on this) then allowable entrant numbers for even bracketing and byes would be:
148, 152, 156, 160, 164, 168, 172, 176, 180, 184, 188, 192, 196, 200, 204, 208, 212, 216, 220, 224, 228, 232, 236, 240, 244, 248, 252, 256, etc....
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cafn8d
Location: Massachusetts
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:10 am Reply with quote
digitalpharaoh wrote: Why give the "top seeds" a bye?
Seems kind of pointless.
Let em all compete on an even playing field.
Last man standing wins.
It's mainly done so more people can play rather than tell whoever registered after #128 "sorry, you can't play." That's all. Otherwise, I certainly agree with you...
Except that it's still hardly a "level" playing field since tournaments always have the highest-ranked against the lowest-ranked for the first round... Thankfully, it's anonymous, and there have been many upsets and surprises in years past... Well, maybe that is a "level" playing field after all! 
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cafn8d
Location: Massachusetts
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:12 am Reply with quote
TofuTheGreat wrote: cafn8d wrote: TofuTheGreat wrote: dbbowling wrote: According to splodge as of March 22nd...
We have 146 people registered for H2H 2009.
Another 50 aliase.... I mean entrants and we'd be at 196 and able to run with first-round byes for the top seeds.
Okay, I understand why in regular playoffs the number of teams / players has to be to the power of two so that EVERY round is divisible by 2 and we wind up with 2 finalists to face-off... but do we need a specific number to give first round byes to top seeds? I thought it was just whatever the difference was between 128 and how many signed up = number of byes could be given out...?
It's a personal preference of mine to have as few first round byes as possible.
You could probably have an odd number of byes but that would weight a bracket differently. Depends on what supa/tutor have in the code.
I'm not the math guru. However I believe that the number of entrants needs to be a power of two and evenly divisible by four. Since we're at 146 (and hopefully higher) that would be 36.5 byes. Doesn't work. Now 148 would allow for 37 byes. If I'm correct (and vokaris, supa, tutor, grefix, btvs, etc. feel free to correct me on this) then allowable entrant numbers for even bracketing and byes would be:
148
152
156
160
164
168
172
176
180
184
188
192
196
200
204
208
212
216
220
224
228
232
236
240
244
248
252
256
Hmmm... This requires more coffee... 
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supak0ma
Location: Photoshop Nation
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:23 pm Reply with quote
cafn8d wrote: TofuTheGreat wrote: cafn8d wrote: TofuTheGreat wrote: dbbowling wrote: According to splodge as of March 22nd...
We have 146 people registered for H2H 2009.
Another 50 aliase.... I mean entrants and we'd be at 196 and able to run with first-round byes for the top seeds.
Okay, I understand why in regular playoffs the number of teams / players has to be to the power of two so that EVERY round is divisible by 2 and we wind up with 2 finalists to face-off... but do we need a specific number to give first round byes to top seeds? I thought it was just whatever the difference was between 128 and how many signed up = number of byes could be given out...?
It's a personal preference of mine to have as few first round byes as possible.
You could probably have an odd number of byes but that would weight a bracket differently. Depends on what supa/tutor have in the code.
I'm not the math guru. However I believe that the number of entrants needs to be a power of two and evenly divisible by four. Since we're at 146 (and hopefully higher) that would be 36.5 byes. Doesn't work. Now 148 would allow for 37 byes. If I'm correct (and vokaris, supa, tutor, grefix, btvs, etc. feel free to correct me on this) then allowable entrant numbers for even bracketing and byes would be:
148
152
156
160
164
168
172
176
180
184
188
192
196
200
204
208
212
216
220
224
228
232
236
240
244
248
252
256
Hmmm... This requires more coffee...
the power of 2....2-4-8-16-32-64-128-256-512 etc
with 146 participants there would be 55 byes (256-146=110/2=55)
way too many
i beg you proc set the round dates those broken brackets are making me crazy
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annajon
Location: DEAD THREAD DUMPINGGROUND NEAR YOU
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:30 pm Reply with quote
Why not have the first round one on one, without all the bracket stuff. If you start with 146, that would mean 73 go to round two.
Then there would only be 9 people who need to go to the next round without competing, if the number 64 still counts. Or am I missing something?
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supak0ma
Location: Photoshop Nation
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:43 pm Reply with quote
it works the way i've explained...sorry annajon
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cafn8d
Location: Massachusetts
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:53 pm Reply with quote
I thought byes were the "extra" ones over and above the last workable number ( 146 - 128 = 18 ) My mistake. The other way of figuring (the correct way) would be too many. 
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marcoballistic
Location: I am everywhere, and Nowhere, but mostly, I am right here!
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:57 pm Reply with quote
there is gonna be quite a few unhappy campers again this year unfortunately
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photolicious
Location: Houston
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Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:25 pm Reply with quote
So what's the word, the lowdown, the skinny?!?! When does this sucker start?
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