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Tarmac

Location: Hotel California

Post Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:08 am   Reply with quote         


Lamborghini just called. They want to have a chat with you. Laughing




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Marx-Man

Location: The United Kingdom!

Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:32 am   Reply with quote         


In that chop, it is abundantly clear you went for what is easiest.

Lacks imagination.

The first thing you need to do is isolate the elements you are going to be working with.

That means removing the Lamborghini from the image.

Cleaning the Tree and the Parking Meter away from it.

The Lambo' should have a hole in it, which you will use your vision to fill.

This will do two things...
1 make the car look like a whole car.
2 give you insight on how pixels translate to real images.
Like how the reflections on the glass work.

Once that is done you will select which kind of artist you want to be for this piece of Art.
Cubist, surrealist, bit-cruncher... etc

The kind of artist you choose to be will dictate how your mind envisages the final result.

So you wish to give the audience a new perspective of the car park. This might involve taking samples of the work and moving them around.

Do you want to tell a story in a different world?

Do you want to make a statement about how default art is getting because of filters.

These questions and so many more you can ask yourself before you start...

And what did you do?

Sample slice a section and flip it, hurr durr, tricycle.

Sit down and actually look at the image you are working with.

Think outside the box...
Print it out on the printer if you have to, because that will take it out of the box you are looking at and get you into that frame of mind.

Look at the elements... THOSE pixels are malleable, mould-able, you can change their position, their colour.

If you can integrate that car seamlessly into something else, that's clichéd, doesn't mean you can't do it though and do it well enough to be remarkable...

Quit disappointing us man. Think about what you are going to make.




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Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:35 am   Reply with quote         


+1 for what Marx said




jcfreak6363

Location: Waiting...

Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:18 pm   Reply with quote         


Well Marx Man AND ground zero, like I have said before, I'm not an expert at PS and I know my VISION may not be up to par with yours or anyone elses here but I like how it turned out if you don't thats fine too just try not being such a dick with your comments. Be CONSTRUCTIVE NOT DESTRUCTIVE Twisted Evil




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Marx-Man

Location: The United Kingdom!

Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:38 pm   Reply with quote         


jcfreak6363 wrote:
Well Marx Man AND ground zero, like I have said before, I'm not an expert at PS and I know my VISION may not be up to par with yours or anyone elses here but I like how it turned out if you don't thats fine too just try not being such a dick with your comments. Be CONSTRUCTIVE NOT DESTRUCTIVE Twisted Evil


Calling it, how I see it, is destructive?

Confused

Firstly you just admitted why you 'Suck at Photoshop'
Open your legitimate copy of Photoshop... Go to any number of tutorials... follow them...

Don't follow them thinking, I know this and it is boring.

Follow them from start to finish, what you will be learning is how different artists do things and finding out which method you actually prefer and how much utility you get from them.

You never know what new tricks and short cuts you will learn, it all adds to your repertoire.
There are about 3 ways to change colour off the top of my head. The hue and saturation, a layer with a blending mode, the blending options themselves.

I am pretty sure there are many more detailed ways of doing that and I can implement many more myself those are just three.
But you don't get better at Photoshop by defending the works you have done, that only makes you better at intellectualising the work as art to people who can't see why you have done something.
I can spend a good solid hour explaining why a normal square is connotative of so many things, but does that mean I can make a perfect square and represent it in a new way which isn't the old tired face on approach.

When I developed the logo I made, I had certain parameters that couldn't change, like the symbolism due to the reasons behind them, but the layout could, the spacing could be changed too, the font and the size of the font and indeed it needed to be.

After hearing others take 'the piss' or criticise the logo sure I could defend it, but I also knew that the audience is my decoder, if they decode my encoded message poorly because certain elements aren't spaced properly or if I assumed people have more insight or capability than they actually do etc... It makes me a bad encoder, and though I may not like to admit that I made choices during the process that could have been better, at least I wont be making as many permanent mistakes in the final product and ultimately could make no mistakes.

This is what art is, it's your impression on the world and the world can talk back and tell you how shit it is BUT it can also place the work on the pedestal most artists aspire to.

You have two elements, Form... Your ability to use the tools proficiently.
Function... Your vision which you manifest using the form.




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Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:58 pm   Reply with quote         


Any (constructive) critiques/comments welcome Razz

I still like ya JC Smile

Maybe I should have said + 0.5 with what Marx said LOL. Nothing wrong with open thinking in the forums, I like seeing stuff people make. Gives me ideas.

Marx was just stating, if you only use the same techniques you know over and over you will never grow in PS. Try some different stuff, if it looks horrible, who cares, its just a stepping stone in the learning process.

Plus Marx may be a tad sexually frustrated Smile




jcfreak6363

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Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:02 pm   Reply with quote         


WOW I just admitted I Suck at Photoshop?!?
Thanks MarxMan you're the BEST!
So CONSTRUCTIVE is telling someone that they SUCK at photoshop? Shocked Twisted Evil




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captainSMITTY11

Location: detroit or pittsburgh

Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:28 pm   Reply with quote         


marx man youre just a fucking twat....if you need to build yourself up by being an ass on a website forum get a fucking life




Marx-Man

Location: The United Kingdom!

Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:43 pm   Reply with quote         


"I just admitted I Suck at Photoshop?!?" jcfreak6363
Yes, you did, you just don't know you did.

"marx man youre just a fucking twat....if you need to build yourself up by being an ass on a website forum get a fucking life" captainSMITTY11
Thank goodness none of what you said applies. Laughing




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jcfreak6363

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Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:44 pm   Reply with quote         


captainSMITTY11 wrote:
marx man youre just a fucking twat....if you need to build yourself up by being an ass on a website forum get a fucking life

Shocked Laughing Twisted Evil




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ReinMan

Location: Kingston, ONTARIO, CAN

Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:32 pm   Reply with quote         


YOU KIDS PLAY NICE, NOW!!!
DON'T MAKE ME COME IN THERE!!!

(oh. Forgot. I quit being a MOD, and therefor can just sit back and enjoy!)


Carry on! salut

Banana




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jcfreak6363

Location: Waiting...

Post Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:56 pm   Reply with quote         


ReinMan wrote:
YOU KIDS PLAY NICE, NOW!!!
DON'T MAKE ME COME IN THERE!!!

(oh. Forgot. I quit being a MOD, and therefor can just sit back and enjoy!)


Carry on! salut

Banana


Laughing Laughing Laughing
I'm through with this debate. No need to carry on. Wink




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seelcraft

Location: High Bridge, New Jersey

Post Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:12 pm   Reply with quote         


I guess you meant, "praise, please".




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jcfreak6363

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Post Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:14 pm   Reply with quote         


seelcraft wrote:
I guess you meant, "praise, please".


HUH??? Surprised Shocked Confused




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Paul Von Stetina

Location: Deep Shit

Post Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:41 pm   Reply with quote         


JC, Marx has some very valid points, I don't think he is commenting to be a dick, he actually wants you to learn something and become a better artist, sometimes its painful but trust me, after you put a few thousand hours into this, you'll go back to your early stuff and say WTF was I thinking? Laughing I still usually say that 5 minutes after every chop.




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