Photoshop Contest PhotoshopContest.com
Creative Contests. Real Prizes. Essential Resource.
You are not logged in. Log in or Register

 


Photoshop Contest Forum Index - Ask the Experts - Order of Adjustment layers. Does it matter? - Reply to topic

TofuTheGreat

Location: Back where I belong.

Post Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:25 pm   Reply with quote         


I was going through this video tutorial and messing with a pic that my nephew took. This got me to looking at, and playing with, adjustment layers in the .psd (and masks in those layers). I had adjustment layers for curves, levels and bright/contrast.

Anywhoooo.... I was moving the adjustment layers around and I didn't notice any changes happening to the image when I put them in different orders. Does the order of adjustment layers matter? Or does it depend on the picture? I'd share the psd but it's 24MB zipped and I don't have webspace that I can get to from home.




_________________
Why I do believe it's pants-less o'clock! - Lar deSouza
”The mind is like a parachute, it doesn’t work if it isn’t open.” - Frank Zappa
Created using photoshop and absolutely no talent. - reyrey

ScionShade

Location: VeniceFlaUS

Post Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:50 pm   Reply with quote         


You can load up 100meg files in my forums and link it here.




ScionShade

Location: VeniceFlaUS

Post Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:51 pm   Reply with quote         


Oh yeah BTW everybody- ya can load up 100 meg files of everything but exe in my forum posts. Sure--go ahead use it all ya want.
when making a post--beneath text box is a drop down menu
"Additional options" expand it.




ReinMan

Location: Kingston, ONTARIO, CAN

Post Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:54 pm   Reply with quote         


TofuTheGreat wrote:
I was going through this video tutorial and messing with a pic that my nephew took. This got me to looking at, and playing with, adjustment layers in the .psd (and masks in those layers). I had adjustment layers for curves, levels and bright/contrast.

Anywhoooo.... I was moving the adjustment layers around and I didn't notice any changes happening to the image when I put them in different orders. Does the order of adjustment layers matter? Or does it depend on the picture? I'd share the psd but it's 24MB zipped and I don't have webspace that I can get to from home.


Ignore Scion - he's ranting as usual...

"IGNORE THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!!"

(oh - how TOPICAL! Smile)

TOFU: the layer stacking order does matter depending on what your are doing and what BLEND properties you've got for any given layer. My advice is don't try to "figure it out", as each time you use them you'll probably use them a bit differently. Just give yourself a few moments to try different combos and different blend styles until you get the effect you are looking for.

What's that noise?

SCION! BE GONE!




_________________

_________________________________
THIS SITE REALLY DOESN'T EXIST
the way our EGO THINKS IT MIGHT!
_________________________________
ReinMan
Guest

Post Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:58 am   Reply with quote         


rein is right about layers but dead wrong about scion




Post Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:16 am   Reply with quote         


it's like math Tofu Smile

layers are processed bottom to top (so each step is set between parentheses Smile )
a group behaves like variables between parentheses

par example

-subtraction layer (2) (basically a mathematical substraction)
-multiply layer (3) (basically a mathmatically multiplication)
backgroundlayer (5)

would give you (5*3)-2 = 13

-multiply layer (3)
-subtraction layer (2)
backgroundlayer (5)

would give you (5-2)*3 = 9




_________________
I used to do stuff around here

Post Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:18 am   Reply with quote         


Grefix wrote:
it's like math Tofu Smile

layers are processed bottom to top (so each step is set between parentheses Smile )
a group behaves like variables between parentheses

par example

-subtraction layer (2) (basically a mathematical substraction)
-multiply layer (3) (basically a mathmatically multiplication)
backgroundlayer (5)

would give you (5*3)-2 = 13

-multiply layer (3)
-subtraction layer (2)
backgroundlayer (5)

would give you (5-2)*3 = 9


Shocked

63!

There. I win.




TofuTheGreat

Location: Back where I belong.

Post Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:44 am   Reply with quote         


Golly gee thanks MooseMan and PenguinBoy! Laughing (sounded like superhero names to me)

The explanations are very much appreciated. I guess it was just a matter of the picture I had not needing much adjustment so the order didn't change things much (either that or my laptop screen and/or my eyes are shot).




_________________
Why I do believe it's pants-less o'clock! - Lar deSouza
”The mind is like a parachute, it doesn’t work if it isn’t open.” - Frank Zappa
Created using photoshop and absolutely no talent. - reyrey

vokaris
Site Moderator

Post Mon Jul 09, 2007 10:40 am   Reply with quote         


Here's a quick example of how the order of the adjustment layers affects the final result. I placed a Curves adjustment layer to increase the contrast and a rather drastic Selective Color adjustment layer to change the color scheme. On the right is the same PSD file with the layer order reversed.

Since an adjustment layer works with the pixel color information from the stack below it, different order will give you slightly different results. Now, whether this is important in a real world application is subject to debate.



And, to top it off, here's a link to a lengthy article on adjustment layers: http://www.creativepro.com/img/story/120504_PS_adjustment.pdf




TofuTheGreat

Location: Back where I belong.

Post Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:18 pm   Reply with quote         


Excellent example Voks! That really showed some changes (I prefer the one on the right). I really think it was just my adjustments to my original photo didn't matter much for the order.




_________________
Why I do believe it's pants-less o'clock! - Lar deSouza
”The mind is like a parachute, it doesn’t work if it isn’t open.” - Frank Zappa
Created using photoshop and absolutely no talent. - reyrey

ReinMan

Location: Kingston, ONTARIO, CAN

Post Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:53 pm   Reply with quote         


Great example, VokMan! Very Happy




_________________

_________________________________
THIS SITE REALLY DOESN'T EXIST
the way our EGO THINKS IT MIGHT!
_________________________________

Photoshop Contest Forum Index - Ask the Experts - Order of Adjustment layers. Does it matter? - Reply to topic

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Navigate PSC
Contests open  completed  winners  prizes  events  rules  rss 
Galleries votes  authentic  skillful  funny  creative  theme  winners 
Interact register  log in/out  forum  chat  user lookup  contact 
Stats monthly leaders  hall of fame  record holders 
PSC advantage  news (rss)  faq  about  links  contact  home 
Help faq  search  new users  tutorials  contact  password 

Adobe, the Adobe logo, Adobe Photoshop, Creative Suite and Illustrator are registered trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated.
Text and images copyright © 2000-2006 Photoshop Contest. All rights reserved.
A venture of ExpertRating.com