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blue_lurker

Location: Australia

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:42 am   Reply with quote         


Ok Im re-colouring a very old black and white image...done all the restore work, removed the cuts and the folds and the missing bits.

Started the re-colour and looks good but I always have trouble with getting flesh tones to look real...downloaded a few tutes and they do ok. I have seen some great flesh work from you guys and was wondering if you would care o leave some tips n tricks here to help out a fellow chopper.

One thing to remember I'm not asking for some one to do the work, I wanna improve my own skills. Im sure a few people will benefit from some expert advise as well, flesh tones I think are one of the hardest things to do.

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annajon

Location: DEAD THREAD DUMPINGGROUND NEAR YOU

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:39 am   Reply with quote         


good question, I will wait with you for somebody who knows!!




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Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:49 am   Reply with quote         


tough.You need to take a pic of your hand in a neutral light and use it as a model for luminosity, specularity, colors.You need to play with layer modes to recreate that correct luminosity that will tend to be altered by the color work you'll do to it, here's my only skin job, it's a tut for a european photoshop magazine printed a couple years ago I think.
I noticed just now I have forgotten to erase some parts of layers.awfull finition.




MindGraph

Location: Augusta, Georgia

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:12 am   Reply with quote         


I tried something out that seems to work ok for me. Always had trouble with it being to dark and fake so I messed around with it a while ago. Took a flesh example like ledirlo showed and picked a lighter area of it and not too pink. Then on a new layer colored in the area I wanted. Then switch the layer to "color" and see where I'm at. Most times I need to mess with the opacity of the layer OR go into "hue/saturation and mess with the hue a bit to get the right tone and also the saturation to maybe reduce the tone a bit once I got the right hue. I've done the tuts and all too but wasn't happy with them as much. Looked too fake. What I found in flesh color is less is more. Here is a quick example of what I just mentioned....good luck bud!




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blue_lurker

Location: Australia

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:19 am   Reply with quote         


sweet drilo you got a link to the tute you wrote mate

Mg trying that method as we type mate




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Synthvet

Location: Oregon

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podgorski

Location: Croatia

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:02 am   Reply with quote         


Dont use a single color while doing it, it will look flat and fake. If you look at the photo of the face you will see some parts are more yellowish and some have more magenta (nose, cheeks...) try to sample different colors from a photo while you are coloring and it should be much better
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Micose

Location: Quebec (CAN) & France

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:11 am   Reply with quote         


for more realism: the greenish underlayer, like the Flemish painters did...flesh is uncolored...blood in veins gives its colour (look at dead people).
podgorski

Location: Croatia

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:34 am   Reply with quote         


Here is a quick example of using more colors for coloring.
If was done in about 6-7 mins
I sampled colors from this image:


This is the original B&W image from google:


And this is the colorized version:


At the end i used selective color adjustment to fine tune red and yellow to the desired values.
Some parts could still have a little less yellow in them (highlights) and you would probbly want more cyan in the shadows than in other parts of the flesh tones
And keep in mind that hair/lips/teeth/eyes color is basicly a variation of the skin tone so it will look unnatural if you go with a completely different color
Hope this helps at least a little bit




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blue_lurker

Location: Australia

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:40 am   Reply with quote         


sweet am havin trouble with the hair line....need to penit a little cleaner I think

thanks guys and keep the advice coming. This is helping heaps.




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Granulated

Location: London

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:50 am   Reply with quote         


Careful use of dodge and burn (mainly dodge highlights) can do wonders




Granulated

Location: London

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:52 am   Reply with quote         


Micose wrote:
for more realism: the greenish underlayer, like the Flemish painters did...flesh is uncolored...blood in veins gives its colour (look at dead people).


Although everyone does have at least some skin pigmentation, even new borns.




dewdew

Location: Upstate South Kack-a-lack

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:42 am   Reply with quote         


Micose wrote:
for more realism: the greenish underlayer, like the Flemish painters did...flesh is uncolored...blood in veins gives its colour (look at dead people).


now thats the damn truth.......tattoo's look the way they do because the skin is transparent. Thats why black looks navy blue in the skin........i love a good artist.....they are helpful. Smile
EDIT:
PIGMENTATION Question .......ok so its not CLEAR. pale .....its still transparent......just tinted Laughing oooohhhhh and tattoo's dont show well on DARK skin......because of the PIGMENTATION. Man i love this learning thing... Hug ....come on ya'll ask something else while its going.




ReyRey

Location: In a world of $#!t

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:21 am   Reply with quote         


Look at hi end magazine covers for skin tones. Those are already corrected by professionals. Glossy page magazines. Yes, even playboy. Wink (vanity Fair is a good one if you have it there)




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Micose

Location: Quebec (CAN) & France

Post Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:02 pm   Reply with quote         


podgorski wrote:
Here is a quick example of using more colors for coloring.
If was done in about 6-7 mins
I sampled colors from this image:


This is the original B&W image from google:


And this is the colorized version:


At the end i used selective color adjustment to fine tune red and yellow to the desired values.
Some parts could still have a little less yellow in them (highlights) and you would probbly want more cyan in the shadows than in other parts of the flesh tones
And keep in mind that hair/lips/teeth/eyes color is basicly a variation of the skin tone so it will look unnatural if you go with a completely different color
Hope this helps at least a little bit


very good.

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