Open Letter to the PSC Community
	
  
	
	
	 
				
				
				 | on Dec 16, 2009 @ 1:30 pm, TutorMe wrote:  -  from  MODERATORS  and  OWNER                   Recently,  there  have  been  some  issues  regarding  using  outside  sources  in  chops  (creations)  here  at  PSC.  The  reality  is,  almost  everyone  here  has  at  one  time  "borrowed"  images  from  the  internet.  In  fact,  in  recent  years,  many  members  have  made  it  a  habit  to  list  EXTERNAL  sources  on  their  images.  This,  in  a  small  way,  acknowledges  our  usage  of  other  people's  work  in  the  creation  of  our  own  images.  Some  members  do  not  bother  giving  these  details,  and  there  will  probably  always  be  an  ongoing  discussion  if  this  is  right  or  wrong.                   The  reality  is:  if  you  don't  have  written  permission  from  the  other  artist/photographer/graphic  designer/techDweeb/etc.  then  you  SHOULDN'T  be  using  it.      And,  if  we  adhere  to  that  reality,  this  website  could  quickly  grind  to  a  halt.                   So  here  are  some  GUIDELINES  that  we  hope  you  will  all  seriously  consider:  If  you  choose  to  go  the  "disclose  source  material"  route,  be  IMPECCABLE  with  it.  This  is  important  from  a  "copyright"  point  as  well  as  a  moral  artistic  point.  Don't  pretend  you've  done  something  cool  that  SOMEONE  ELSE  has  put  their  own  creativity  into.  GIVE  THEM  CREDIT,  or  at  least  don't  put  that  credit  upon  yourself.                   PRETENDING  THAT  YOU'VE  CREATED  SOMETHING  THAT  YOU  HAVEN'T  WILL  GET  YOU  BANNED  ON  THIS  SITE.  Please  note:  we  are  serious  about  this.                   If  you  are  in  doubt  about  what  you  are  using,  spend  some  time  going  through  your  own  files  of  personal  and  family  photos  and  find  something  you  can  use.  Or  do  like  many  of  us  do  here,  grab  a  camera  and  go  shoot  what  you  need.                   Thanks  for  your  consideration  and  we  trust  that  you'll  all  get  the  spirit  behind  this  message!                   Your  PSC  MODs                   **PLEASE  NOTE:    You're  free  to  post  comments  here,  but  for  discussion  and/or  questions  please  refer  to  the  thread  here.**    | 
				 
			
					
					 
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                                		                TofuTheGreat (Dec 16, 2009 @ 1:33 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	You plagiarized ReinMod's post and didn't give credit!  GRRRR!!! Bad Trey!  *smacks hand*
;) 
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                                		                ReinMan (Dec 16, 2009 @ 1:35 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	No Tofu - he had my consent.  
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                                		                TutorMe (Dec 16, 2009 @ 2:05 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	Damn!  You've caught me!  Does this mean I'm gonna be banded??? 
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                                		                CarlC (Dec 16, 2009 @ 3:22 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	Way to go! Hope you all feel real important. 
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                                		                TutorMe (Dec 16, 2009 @ 4:41 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	I'm not sure why you're taking the offensive here, Carl.  The main point being made here is if you choose to list your external sources, don't leave any out.  It doesn't look good for you.  If you don't want to list externals, don't.   
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                                		                Cartoon Contractor (Dec 16, 2009 @ 5:02 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	Good job Rein/Tutor! Ya'll found your way to the News section! LOL!! And Tutor, We'll let you slide on the Ban THIS time! But DON"T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN! =0) 
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                                		                JGJ Media (Dec 16, 2009 @ 5:28 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	One thing people should do is ONLY grab images from Public Domain sites. I listed a few:
http://www.pdimages.com/
http://www.publicdomainpictures.net/
http://www.bing.com (type in PUBLIC DOMAIN IMAGES)
Remember to verify the site first before  
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                                		                JGJ Media (Dec 16, 2009 @ 5:29 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	Actually, you could make it mandatory to use only public domain, and royalty-free images. Just have people use public domain sites to grab images if they don't have them. There are a lot out there. 
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                                		                eLSim (Dec 16, 2009 @ 6:28 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	Hi: I was wondering about the free image sites. I've gotten a few pics from public domain sites. Otherwise all the rest is my own material. Should I mention the public domain site  if I use one of their images? 
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                                		                woodie (Dec 16, 2009 @ 8:30 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	Who among us????? 
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                                		                soulrock (Dec 17, 2009 @ 2:24 am)
                                                	         
                                                        	As a newbie, sometimes I get images from the net. Should I give credit to the name of the site where the image came from?  
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                                		                mangochutney (Dec 17, 2009 @ 7:44 am)
                                                	         
                                                        	http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/property/library/moralprimer.html 
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                                		                barefoot (Dec 17, 2009 @ 8:59 am)
                                                	         
                                                        	I have also learned that what you sometimes shoot also could fall under copy rights like Zoo's, Amusement Parks, Some building, etc. and even people.   
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                                		                CarlC (Dec 17, 2009 @ 12:06 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	...just needed to RANT at something, all is well now 
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                                		                nancers (Dec 17, 2009 @ 10:18 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	HAH CarlC...as an old timer, we prided ourselves in finding the best externals, never quoted them and the words "all source" didn't exist.  Times have changed as users have changed I guess. And the site...with advantage.  
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                                		                CarlC (Dec 18, 2009 @ 11:25 am)
                                                	         
                                                        	We need to show comments on Anon contests; therefore to list externals~ 
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                                		                Dragon (Dec 18, 2009 @ 6:07 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	I would agree with all of what you said, but keep in mind that works based on another work are what is called a derivative work for purposes of copyright law.   
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                                		                L@rue (Dec 18, 2009 @ 7:32 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	Just shut up Rein 
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                                		                ReinMan (Dec 22, 2009 @ 11:25 am)
                                                	         
                                                        	Thanks for your understanding L@rue. :P   
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                                		                L@rue (Dec 24, 2009 @ 7:04 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	:) Merry Christmas Rein You still one of my best Canadian Mod;) 
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                                		                L@rue (Dec 24, 2009 @ 7:11 pm)
                                                	         
                                                        	Oh.....  I forgot to mention that I like your new avatar 
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                                		                Qnita van Straaten (Dec 25, 2009 @ 5:20 am)
                                                	         
                                                        	I wrote to a site and asked permission to use there pictures in my edits.... Maybe already 2 months ago.... I never got an answer...  
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