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Location: Back where I belong.

Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:34 am   Reply with quote         

I got a PM from someone asking a genuine question. After writing my response I thought it was something that I'd share with every other PSC "newbie" (not the same as a noob or n00b or you nubie Wink ). These were things I'd heard when I was a newer newb than I am now.

someone else wrote:
This guy ReyRey and others, did they like take classes on photoshop? I'm at the skillfully executed gallery and I'm superfied Shocked

There are several artists (known as "choppers") here whose skills put them in the category of "freaks of nature".Laughing

Many of these people are professional artists that use Photoshop on a daily basis. So yes they've usually had classes/training with Photoshop. They know their stuff and are the ones that will give you the best pointers and tips if you heed them.

Others, like me, are hobbyist choppers. But that doesn't mean we can't do well around here. If your idea for a chop is good enough, and you put enough effort into it, it will usually do well here (even if imperfect). Several of the most successful choppers around PSC did not start out as professional choppers.

Best bits of advice I can give are:

    1. Never be too scared or intimidated to enter a contest. If you've got an idea then do it without regard to worrying about how it will do against other entries.

    2. Don't get discouraged if your chop doesn't do as well as you think it should have. Late entries rarely ever do well as they just don't get the exposure that the other entries did. Think of PSC like school. You don't start out as a child expecting to get your PhD on the first day. Many of the really good artists here put their time in to learning outside of PSC.

    3. Search for, read and DO tutorials on effects and techniques that interest you or are geared toward something you're trying to do in a chop. Learning by doing is the best (and fits well with item 1).

    4. If you don't know how to do something ASK. There are some really great people around here and they'll help you. But you have to ask for the help first (usually). If they see that you're putting the effort in then they'll help. If you're looking for a free ride then you'll get ripped to pieces.

    5. Don't "vote whore". Vote whoring is PM'ing people with messages like "please look at my entry" while the contest is open (or posting to the forums or chat with the same message while the contest is open). People don't like it. There are some who'll help you before a contest is open (once they get to know you). But if you want people to give feedback on your chop then put your own comments requesting such help with the chop itself. Some will give feedback and others won't. As an aside to this you can, in my opinion, solicit people to look at a chop AFTER the contest is over. Then there's nothing to gain but the advancement of your skills at that point.

    6. Have fun. This actually has three parts. Used to be two but now it's three.
    6a. Take part in the forum "contests" that pop up. There's crazy fun chopping to be done in the forums (and Advantage chat if you pony up the money). Doing these chops can sometimes teach you skills you wouldn't have thought of doing a contest entry.
    6b. Remember that this place is ultimately a diversion from the real world. If you start taking it too seriously you're gonna just be a miserable grouch (and we do have a couple of those around here Wink ).
    6c. Before you bring up ideas to change the voting, change the contests, or change how the site works. PLEASE SEARCH THE FORUMS! We've talked about these things ad infinitum. If you have a truly original idea we're all ears. But if it's an idea that's been brought up before then you'll get eaten alive. This can interfere with 6c.

    7. STFUAC. If you don't know what that means ask around.Laughing

Why I do believe it's pants-less o'clock! - Lar deSouza
”The mind is like a parachute, it doesn’t work if it isn’t open.” - Frank Zappa
Created using photoshop and absolutely no talent. - reyrey

Lord David

Location: Melbourne, Australian Continent, Earth, Sector 001, United Federation of Planets, Alpha Quadrant.

Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:38 am   Reply with quote         

hey! nubie is aan actual member here!



Location: Australia

Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:40 am   Reply with quote         

Just one thingya missed mate
STFU and CHOP Very Happy
The rest will take care of it self.



Location: East Coast!

Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:44 am   Reply with quote         

I've never taken a class.
I have just posted here.
Post here and you will learn.

Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:47 am   Reply with quote         

imho this this deserves to be stickied.

Nicely formulated Tofu


Location: Jacksonville FL

Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:48 am   Reply with quote         

PSC will improve your PS skills ten fold! Where else can you buy this much education for $24.95????

(1 years time)
My first entry at PSC:
My most recent entry at PSC:

Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:43 pm   Reply with quote         

Stevster wrote:
PSC will improve your PS skills ten fold!

I agree....I laugh when I look back at some of my first posts!

Proud Hobby Chopper here Very Happy


Location: Rochester, New York

Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:06 pm   Reply with quote         

Well put Tofu


Location: Somerville MA

Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:23 pm   Reply with quote         

This is true! Very Happy

Location: Tripping the lights Fandango

Post Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:24 pm   Reply with quote         

blue_lurker wrote:
Just one thingya missed mate
STFU and CHOP Very Happy
The rest will take care of it self.

I was waiting till the contest was over and was gonna post this on Eve's grumpy thread ya go! Shocked Surprised Laughing

Like word games? Are you Witty?

Location: germany

Post Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:05 am   Reply with quote         

Here´s also a "Newbie", i started at PSC because i searched for some Tutorials...
And when I saw all these Entries I have the courage and upload my first entry, in hope that I get some critical feedback.
Now i´m so excited from PSC that I can't wait to get my Advantage.


sorry for my english, it´s unparticular


Location: Brisbane Australia

Post Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:42 pm   Reply with quote         

"All valid points and worth a read by some of us old PSC Hands, who've forgotten how daunting a blank monitor screen can be to a lot of newbies out there!"


Location: cheshire/uk

Post Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:21 am   Reply with quote         

Number 6 should have been number 1 i think, the whole idea here is to have fun, it doesnt matter if you dont get top votes every time, as long as your having fun doing a chop, you will be learning new things and getting better every day.


Lord David

Location: Melbourne, Australian Continent, Earth, Sector 001, United Federation of Planets, Alpha Quadrant.

Post Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:31 am   Reply with quote         

One simple piece of advice for noobs.... DON'T SPAM!




Location: Minnesota

Post Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:04 am   Reply with quote         

This is prolly a really dumb question but what is source?

Isn't this a photoshop site?

Very Happy STONE

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