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      | Does this post deserve 37 votes? |  
      | yes |  | 60% | [ 15 ] |  
      | no |  | 40% | [ 10 ] |  Total Votes: 25 
		
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 12:57 am   Reply with quote
 Ummm, Hello? Time for a wake up call it would seem. HELLO!!!
 
At the time of starting this thread, this image had 37 votes. 37 VOTES!
http://photoshopcontest.com/view-entry/74562/display.html 
FOR WHAT??? an idea? This user made no effort what so ever to even use some of the simplest techniques to adjust color or lighting. Why should he be rewarded for such lazy work??
 
No attention to cutouts, no attention to details like the ropes, and horrendous color matching and lighting. 37 fucking votes.  you voters should be ashamed. This kind of encouragement will not help a user strive to do better. With votes like this, why bother?
 
lets go people!
 
 
 
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					anfa
					
					
					  
					Location: Geordieland, UK
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 1:01 am   Reply with quote
 A lot of the time I vote for the idea 'caus a lot of the choppin' could be better. But ya just gotta go with what you've got!  
 
 
 
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					ReinMan
					
					
					  
					Location: Kingston, ONTARIO, CAN
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 1:16 am   Reply with quote
 Well I can't seem to find that post, Mr. Sword.  I try entering the URL manually too and I just get the home page.
 
I'm not sure if this is a joke  - but then you do not normally joke (as I've experienced you).
 
So - I'll check back later and see what this kerfuffle is all about.
 
(but if it has 37 votes, someone around here must like it)    
or
 
(since it no longer exists someone around here must hate it)   
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 2:00 am   Reply with quote
 I use this site to practice my skills....and get feed back on my entries. I think too often people get obsessed with winning or votes. Competition is great...but i spend alot of time working on techniques and practicing them over and over again till i get good at them. The other half of this equation is the message or idea that your chop conveys to the viewer. The viewer could be an 8 year old....who takes a look at it and thinks cool...or it could be a geekologist who works for a camera company and very carefully looks at all the work that went into the image/idea. My advice...have a cold beverage....hug your significant other....but have fun in what you do.
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					anfa
					
					
					  
					Location: Geordieland, UK
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 2:09 am   Reply with quote
 I hate any elitist atatude! 
 
 
 
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					txpinky
					
					
					  
					Location: the Netherlands
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 3:14 am   Reply with quote
 I agree with dbbowling.
 
It's not always the clean chopping that counts. Being creative and original is an other part. 
 
I often wander how the picts look without 'advantage', I mean if everybody have the same little time to create a pic. 
 
For me it's a sport to create things in a short time, so I would never use 'advantage, votes and support are great, but most important is being creative (it's an addict).  
 
 
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					ScionShade
					
					
					  
					Location: VeniceFlaUS
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 4:45 am   Reply with quote
 txpinky wrote: I often wander how the picts look without 'advantage', I mean if everybody have the same little time to create a pic. 
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 I just wonder how you think in any way it was different before the advantage started--
 
it was exactly the same--a bunch of people who don't work
 
or can chop at work got to post first--
 
then everyone else trys to find time at home that night-- 
 
plus half the people on PSC live on the other side of the planet and don't
 
even wake up till 8 hours after the show starts --
 
 so? what's the diff/? aside from the site having zero revenue?
 
 I see this argument all the time and noone
 
EVER explains how they expect this to make a difference--
 
so I am very curious.
 
 these new google banner ads are extremely irritating.
 
 
 
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					txpinky
					
					
					  
					Location: the Netherlands
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 5:42 am   Reply with quote
 ScionShade wrote:
 
"I just wonder how you think in any way it was different before the advantage started"
 
Well I often read that people work 3,4 or more hours at one post.
 
What if you don't have so much spare time.
 
Wouldn't the picts be different then? It's just a thought!
 
It's not that important. 
  
 
 
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					ScionShade
					
					
					  
					Location: VeniceFlaUS
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 9:30 am   Reply with quote
   ?
 
Hey, don't go giving me the brow, now.
 
I wasn't busting on ya.
 
The really good choppers who really know
 
their way around PS get done quickly anyway.
 
  For some that was the game--who could post first.
 
I remember one guy did this as "His thing".
 
 I also remember since he was first, and first to get votes-
 
well, people complained that he was getting more votes than
 
chops that were better.
 
 In all fairness IF this site were MAINLY about the contest--
 
then noone would be voting till all entrys were in, and then 
 
the thumbnail page would randomly display the posted images 
 
in a random pattern, and we'd slip into being Worth1K in no time at all.
  
 
 
 
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					Cynn
					
					
					  
					Location: California Choppin'
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 11:16 am   Reply with quote
 I think there is a subtle point we're forgetting, here. Sometimes we cast encouragement votes, or ha-ha votes, or idea votes, *knowing* that the entry we're voting for isn't going to win. It feels good to get votes, and we are fully aware, when we cast the vote, that we're not going to skew the final contest results by supporting somebody who could use a vote.
 Now, I'm not saying I do this constantly, but I definitely do it, and do it with eyes open. We have 25 votes per contest, and there usually aren't 25 perfect chops, on any given day. I think the reason we have so many is so that we can use them as we see fit.
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					nancers
					
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 11:35 am   Reply with quote
 I voted for him because I was hoping to get a vote back...you know, I scratch your back, you scratch mine?
 
Wait, I didn't even post in that contest, I was busy getting spanked in th H2H.
 
Never mind.  
 
 
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					theduplicate
					
					
					  
					Location: Alpes, France
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 12:17 pm   Reply with quote
 First time, THANKS anfa !
 
second, you, little sword, watches us something, after you will be able to criticize what the others do !!     
Third, psc is a recreation for me, I work my images the night, after my work      
And YOU SWORDY ! use the 3 or 4 neurons of your brain to say something
 
 of intelligent        
Of which right you do allow yourself such criticisms ??     
I'm sure that you're the kind of anybody unable to say opposite what you think !!!!
 
Ah! I forgot, if the morons flew you would be a chief of flotilla             
thank you has all those which can see when there is work on an pic !     
Matt...
 
 
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					 Sat May 07, 2005 2:48 pm   Reply with quote
 theduplicate wrote: First time, THANKS anfa !
 
second, you, little sword, watches us something, after you will be able to criticize what the others do !!     
Third, psc is a recreation for me, I work my images the night, after my work      
And YOU SWORDY ! use the 3 or 4 neurons of your brain to say something
 
 of intelligent        
Of which right you do allow yourself such criticisms ??     
I'm sure that you're the kind of anybody unable to say opposite what you think !!!!
 
Ah! I forgot, if the morons flew you would be a chief of flotilla             
thank you has all those which can see when there is work on an pic !     
Matt...
It's quotes like these that prove my point that the average user these dayas is only interested in votes and not whether their image is actually any good.  It proves that users like Matt  are not interested in getting better but only hearing praises of astonishment. And god forbid anyone try to point out whats wrong with one image or another.
 
I did not attack Matt  personally, I simply felt his image was much worth much less than the votes it received suggested.  And yet, I get a PM from him with the subject "BITCH!!!" and a body that consists of...
 theduplicate wrote: YOU KNOW WHAT MAN ?? I FUCK YOU LIKE A BEAST !!!
Matt
 
Well, way to go MAN , you've proven much of my arguments regarding many here and what their ultimate goal is. Well done.
 
I don't care what your excuses are for being lazy. If you choose to be lazy and don't care about the details, expect people to complain.
 
 
 
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