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Sassy

Location: Tripping the lights Fandango

Post Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:28 pm   Reply with quote         


FootFungas wrote:
Sassy wrote:
and I Plan to keep them but If they have their way ALL woman would Legally lose the right to an abortion (no matter why they are pregnant)


Wouldn't want people to lose their right to kill babies.


I am not for All Abortion but I am for the Right for the Woman to have a choice.I feel they have a responsibilty to not get pregnant but also feel like a baby conceived by rape or incest is behind the 8-ball from the start Sad

I think people should be allowed to make personal choices and not have them dictated or be pressured by any one group...(like protesters outside Clinic's)




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ScionShade

Location: VeniceFlaUS

Post Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:40 pm   Reply with quote         


Why do you want churches to pay taxes?
they are non-profit organizations.
In florida..doing away with NPO's would mean taxing,
all NPO schools and colleges, Wikipedia, YMCA,
Billions of dollars worth of property set aside as nature preserves purchased by NPO's such as Florida forever.
ALL the NPO elderly care facilities, All facilities serving the homeless, battered woman, drug rahabs.
NPO's for the arts, museums, ALL NPO scientific science research facilities.
All community centers..my neighborhood has one, we don't have enough membership to cover taxation.
The salvation Army, who have been there for countless people in dire need.
AARP's offices,ACLU,florida school for the deaf and blind..
I could go on all night..




ScionShade

Location: VeniceFlaUS

Post Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:43 pm   Reply with quote         


Sassy wrote:
..like protesters outside Clinic's

protesters outside clinics ARE unseemly, the DO make you feel very uncomfortable....but that is not taking away anyone's rights.
People with "the only good republican is a dead one" bumper stickers make me uncomfortable...
should I have their rights canceled?




ScionShade

Location: VeniceFlaUS

Post Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:48 pm   Reply with quote         


I've been in an abortion clinic. Took about one minute
before I wished i was back outside taking the abuse from the protesters. Those big masculine nurses/assistants in that place
were far worse.




Paul Von Stetina

Location: Deep Shit

Post Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:43 am   Reply with quote         


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To-q3FVqSUM&NR

Shocked Have you ever noticed this before? Twisted Evil




Paul Von Stetina

Location: Deep Shit

Post Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:24 am   Reply with quote         


I just caught this, it's the latest scheme to keep the people down, afraid, and trully ruled by the masters, I know if this comes up for a vote, I'll be out in the streets to see heads roll, this is complete bullshit.


New Law: NO FLY FOR ALL AMERICANS!
You wanted it now you've got it!

This only applies to those Useful Idiots (TM) sheeple who believe everything Zionist Media Brainwashes them with.

If this law comes into effect, ALL AMERICANS beginning Jan 14, 2007 -- That's next year, in 2 months or so -- will have their freedom of movement taken away (as if it's not already severely limited).

Read below for more info:

Think about the ramifications...

They are treating us like sheep, herding us up, readying for the slaughter.... Sad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

We're All Prisoners,

Now: US Citizens to be Required ''Clearance'' to Leave USA International Politics October 26, 2006 Forget no-fly lists.

If Uncle Sam gets its way, beginning on Jan. 14, 2007, we'll all be on no-fly lists, unless the government gives us permission to leave-or re-enter-the United States.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (HSA) has proposed that all airlines, cruise lines-even fishing boats-be required to obtain clearance for each passenger they propose taking into or out of the United States.

It doesn't matter if you have a U.S. Passport - a "travel document" that now, absent a court order to the contrary, gives you a virtually unqualified right to enter or leave the United States, any time you want.

When the DHS system comes into effect next January, if the agency says "no" to a clearance request, or doesn't answer the request at all, you won't be permitted to enter-or leave-the United States.

Consider what might happen if you're a U.S. passport holder on assignment in a country like Saudi Arabia. Your visa is about to expire, so you board your flight back to the United States.

But wait! You can't get on, because you don't have permission from the HSA. Saudi immigration officials are on hand to escort you to a squalid detention center, where you and others who are now effectively "stateless persons" are detained, potentially indefinitely, until their immigration status is sorted out.

Why might the HSA deny you permission to leave-or enter-the United States?

No one knows, because the entire clearance procedure would be an administrative determination made secretly, with no right of appeal.

Naturally, the decision would be made without a warrant, without probable cause and without even any particular degree of suspicion.

Basically, if the HSA decides it doesn't like you, you're a prisoner - either outside, or inside, the United States, whether or not you hold a U.S. passport.

The U.S. Supreme Court has long recognized there is a constitutional right to travel internationally. Indeed, it has declared that the right to travel is "a virtually unconditional personal right." The United States has also signed treaties guaranteeing "freedom of travel."

So if these regulations do go into effect, you can expect a lengthy court battle, both nationally and internationally.

Think this can't happen? Think again.

It's ALREADY happening.

Earlier this year, HSA forbade airlines from transporting an 18-year-old a native-born U.S. citizen, back to the United States. The prohibition lasted nearly six months until it was finally lifted a few weeks ago.

Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union are two countries in recent history that didn't allow their citizens to travel abroad without permission.

If these regulations go into effect, you can add the United States to this list. For more information on this proposed regulation, see http:// hasbrouck.org/IDP/IDP-APIS-comments.pdf.




Sassy

Location: Tripping the lights Fandango

Post Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:20 am   Reply with quote         


Paul Von Stetina wrote:
I just caught this, it's the latest scheme to keep the people down, afraid, and trully ruled by the masters, I know if this comes up for a vote, I'll be out in the streets to see heads roll, this is complete bullshit.


New Law: NO FLY FOR ALL AMERICANS!
You wanted it now you've got it!

This only applies to those Useful Idiots (TM) sheeple who believe everything Zionist Media Brainwashes them with.

If this law comes into effect, ALL AMERICANS beginning Jan 14, 2007 -- That's next year, in 2 months or so -- will have their freedom of movement taken away (as if it's not already severely limited).

Read below for more info:

Think about the ramifications...

They are treating us like sheep, herding us up, readying for the slaughter.... Sad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

We're All Prisoners,

Now: US Citizens to be Required ''Clearance'' to Leave USA International Politics October 26, 2006 Forget no-fly lists.

If Uncle Sam gets its way, beginning on Jan. 14, 2007, we'll all be on no-fly lists, unless the government gives us permission to leave-or re-enter-the United States.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (HSA) has proposed that all airlines, cruise lines-even fishing boats-be required to obtain clearance for each passenger they propose taking into or out of the United States.

It doesn't matter if you have a U.S. Passport - a "travel document" that now, absent a court order to the contrary, gives you a virtually unqualified right to enter or leave the United States, any time you want.

When the DHS system comes into effect next January, if the agency says "no" to a clearance request, or doesn't answer the request at all, you won't be permitted to enter-or leave-the United States.

Consider what might happen if you're a U.S. passport holder on assignment in a country like Saudi Arabia. Your visa is about to expire, so you board your flight back to the United States.

But wait! You can't get on, because you don't have permission from the HSA. Saudi immigration officials are on hand to escort you to a squalid detention center, where you and others who are now effectively "stateless persons" are detained, potentially indefinitely, until their immigration status is sorted out.

Why might the HSA deny you permission to leave-or enter-the United States?

No one knows, because the entire clearance procedure would be an administrative determination made secretly, with no right of appeal.

Naturally, the decision would be made without a warrant, without probable cause and without even any particular degree of suspicion.

Basically, if the HSA decides it doesn't like you, you're a prisoner - either outside, or inside, the United States, whether or not you hold a U.S. passport.

The U.S. Supreme Court has long recognized there is a constitutional right to travel internationally. Indeed, it has declared that the right to travel is "a virtually unconditional personal right." The United States has also signed treaties guaranteeing "freedom of travel."

So if these regulations do go into effect, you can expect a lengthy court battle, both nationally and internationally.

Think this can't happen? Think again.

It's ALREADY happening.

Earlier this year, HSA forbade airlines from transporting an 18-year-old a native-born U.S. citizen, back to the United States. The prohibition lasted nearly six months until it was finally lifted a few weeks ago.

Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union are two countries in recent history that didn't allow their citizens to travel abroad without permission.

If these regulations go into effect, you can add the United States to this list. For more information on this proposed regulation, see http:// hasbrouck.org/IDP/IDP-APIS-comments.pdf.


the link isn't working Paul...




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Paul Von Stetina

Location: Deep Shit

Post Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:26 am   Reply with quote         


Oh well, maybe this law won't either, god I hope not, I leave the country a lot, and usually on a last minute notice, knowing anything, when the govt. is involved you're usually looking at 6 weeks min. this would be the biggest clusterfuck to ever happen to the people, I can't even imagine it, but the way things are going we can kiss our freedoms goodbye Confused




Sassy

Location: Tripping the lights Fandango

Post Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:38 am   Reply with quote         


Paul Von Stetina wrote:
Oh well, maybe this law won't either, god I hope not, I leave the country a lot, and usually on a last minute notice, knowing anything, when the govt. is involved you're usually looking at 6 weeks min. this would be the biggest clusterfuck to ever happen to the people, I can't even imagine it, but the way things are going we can kiss our freedoms goodbye Confused


I know I am out of the Country alot too...I better get stuck in a Country with a Beach a Bar and Juan the Cabana Boy or I won't be a happy Camper...

but seriously this so sux I'll try that link later...




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Post Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:53 am   Reply with quote         


Sassy wrote:
I know I am out of the Country alot too...I better get stuck in a Country with a Beach a Bar and Juan the Cabana Boy or I won't be a happy Camper...


Hola. Mi nombre es Juan y seré su muchacho de la cabaña.
Wink




FootFungas

Location: East Coast!

Post Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:06 am   Reply with quote         


There are gonna be SO many sequels to that terminal movie now.




Sassy

Location: Tripping the lights Fandango

Post Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:21 pm   Reply with quote         


digitalpharaoh wrote:
Sassy wrote:
I know I am out of the Country alot too...I better get stuck in a Country with a Beach a Bar and Juan the Cabana Boy or I won't be a happy Camper...


Hola. Mi nombre es Juan y seré su muchacho de la cabaña.
Wink


Laughing Laughing Wink

here is an ACLU link..looks like they have been busy....

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/discrim/17470prs20040406.html




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