Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:06 pm   Reply with quote         

I hear what you're saying ledirlo and you are correct if trying to make transparent glass (which I may yet do with this experimenting).

But I didn't want totally clear glass. I wanted a streaky looking glass laced with blacks and greys (see the examples I linked to). Rey is correct in his assessment of what I'm trying to accomplish. It's one of those "I can see it in my head" deals. If I can ever find a good example of what I'm trying to do then I'll be sure to post it.

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Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:09 pm   Reply with quote         

Tofu,
here's not an attempt to correct your pic but give you another point of view:the dark part of your glass was inverted to white and blurred, th result is awfull, quick job just to show you what I meant.

Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:42 pm   Reply with quote         

ledirlo wrote:

Tofu,
here's not an attempt to correct your pic but give you another point of view:the dark part of your glass was inverted to white and blurred, th result is awfull, quick job just to show you what I meant.

Sweet! I like your take on it.

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Why I do believe it's pants-less o'clock! - Lar deSouza
”The mind is like a parachute, it doesn’t work if it isn’t open.” - Frank Zappa
Created using photoshop and absolutely no talent. - reyrey

Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:59 pm   Reply with quote         

I guess the terms for what I'm trying to create are "venetian glass", "mottled glass", "colored glass", "murano glass" or "speckled glass". Rough examples:
(best) - http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2007/01/05/495404/secchiellomurano2006.jpg
http://www.antiquesatlas.com/dealer-stock-images/midcheshire/ac020a109b.jpg

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Why I do believe it's pants-less o'clock! - Lar deSouza
”The mind is like a parachute, it doesn’t work if it isn’t open.” - Frank Zappa
Created using photoshop and absolutely no talent. - reyrey

Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:28 pm   Reply with quote         

Blue glass added bottom

Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:00 pm   Reply with quote         

TofuTheGreat wrote:

I guess the terms for what I'm trying to create are "venetian glass", "mottled glass", "colored glass", "murano glass" or "speckled glass"...

Have you considered the obvious alternative of maybe using 3D software?

Even if it's not a 100% physically correct render, it will get you much closer to the desired effect, then polish it in Photoshop.

Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:14 pm   Reply with quote         

vokaris wrote:

TofuTheGreat wrote:

I guess the terms for what I'm trying to create are "venetian glass", "mottled glass", "colored glass", "murano glass" or "speckled glass"...

Have you considered the obvious alternative of maybe using 3D software?

Even if it's not a 100% physically correct render, it will get you much closer to the desired effect, then polish it in Photoshop.

Well I could look into a rendering package. But this whole thing started as a way of learning more on using shapes, gradients, masks, etc. within Photoshop. As well as learning how to analyze an image for composition and positioning of light sources.

I won't be playing with any 3D software until I have a better computer.

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Why I do believe it's pants-less o'clock! - Lar deSouza
”The mind is like a parachute, it doesn’t work if it isn’t open.” - Frank Zappa
Created using photoshop and absolutely no talent. - reyrey

Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:39 pm   Reply with quote         

ReyRey wrote:

Blue glass added bottom

pencil is off.......needs more lean.....the top hits the wrong side.......PSSSSt.. .....amateurs.

actually this has been one of the better threads. It's been fun to watch the progression of the image......Hotdamn........DO a NUDDEN........this is better then watching Bob Ross.

Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:55 pm   Reply with quote         

ReyRey wrote:

Blue glass added bottom

Love the blue glass look. Nice shade and the bottom looks good too.

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Why I do believe it's pants-less o'clock! - Lar deSouza
”The mind is like a parachute, it doesn’t work if it isn’t open.” - Frank Zappa
Created using photoshop and absolutely no talent. - reyrey

Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:59 pm   Reply with quote         

TofuTheGreat wrote:

vokaris wrote:

TofuTheGreat wrote:

I guess the terms for what I'm trying to create are "venetian glass", "mottled glass", "colored glass", "murano glass" or "speckled glass"...

Have you considered the obvious alternative of maybe using 3D software?

Even if it's not a 100% physically correct render, it will get you much closer to the desired effect, then polish it in Photoshop.

Well I could look into a rendering package. But this whole thing started as a way of learning more on using shapes, gradients, masks, etc. within Photoshop. As well as learning how to analyze an image for composition and positioning of light sources.

I won't be playing with any 3D software until I have a better computer.

By the way, don't get confused with the apple and the upside down image within it. That happens with a "solid" glass object., like a marble.

Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:23 pm   Reply with quote         

ReyRey wrote:

By the way, don't get confused with the apple and the upside down image within it. That happens with a "solid" glass object., like a marble.

You are exactly right, the image I pulled off the web does not work as a good example in this scenario. I was just pointing out the availability of other tools (some of them free) to get the job done, or get to a good starting/reference point if nothing else.

Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:38 pm   Reply with quote         

vokaris wrote:

ReyRey wrote:

By the way, don't get confused with the apple and the upside down image within it. That happens with a "solid" glass object., like a marble.

You are exactly right, the image I pulled off the web does not work as a good example in this scenario. I was just pointing out the availability of other tools (some of them free) to get the job done, or get to a good starting/reference point if nothing else.

That's a nice 1

Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:56 pm   Reply with quote         

ReyRey wrote:

That's a nice 1

Not mine, I just googled 3d vase glass render (or something to that effect)

Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:45 pm   Reply with quote         

vokaris wrote:

ReyRey wrote:

That's a nice 1

Not mine, I just googled 3d vase glass render (or something to that effect)

So when do we see your version of the render then?

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Why I do believe it's pants-less o'clock! - Lar deSouza
”The mind is like a parachute, it doesn’t work if it isn’t open.” - Frank Zappa
Created using photoshop and absolutely no talent. - reyrey